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    24 Apr '18 22:31
    Originally posted by @secondson
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    Soon we won't have to contend with the traitor ever again.
    Why are you so angry.
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    25 Apr '18 10:35
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Guess you don't have kids. Slight joke, sigh.
    I have kids. And yes there have been times. 😉
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    25 Apr '18 10:38
    Originally posted by @apathist
    Why are you so angry.
    Not angry.

    Do you know what "the traitor within" means, as a biblical concept?

    It is interesting. If you're of a mind to know.
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    25 Apr '18 13:35
    Originally posted by @secondson
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    Do you know what "the traitor within" means, as a biblical concept?
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    No. I kinda need a non-biblical reference. I like zeus and shiva too. They are all worth about the same.
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    25 Apr '18 15:36
    Originally posted by @apathist
    might not like me when i am riled
    Well then, don't get riled.
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    25 Apr '18 16:47
    Originally posted by @apathist
    No. I kinda need a non-biblical reference. I like zeus and shiva too. They are all worth about the same.
    Ignorance is bliss.

    Causes me wonder how you can know what you need.

    Nothing is the same when you know.
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    26 Apr '18 23:33
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Ignorance is bliss.

    Causes me wonder how you can know what you need.

    ...
    Not everyone is christian. I suppose gods are strong enough not to depend on existing in only a particular region.
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    02 May '18 06:31
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Not angry.

    Do you know what "the traitor within" means, as a biblical concept?

    It is interesting. If you're of a mind to know.
    I'm not afraid of the traitor "within" anymore. I am sanctified in the blood of my Savior. He lends me strength. He has sent the Comforter.

    It's the traitor "without" that I have a problem with.
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    02 May '18 21:351 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    I'm not afraid of the traitor "within" anymore. I am sanctified in the blood of my Savior. He lends me strength. He has sent the Comforter.

    It's the traitor "without" that I have a problem with.
    The Bible boils it down to the flesh, the devil and the world.

    The lust of the eyes, the pride of life and the lust of the flesh.

    The concept is enumerated throughout scripture.

    I appreciate your comment about sanctification. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus' substitutionary death on the cross, and sanctified by the "washing of water by the word", and then finally glorified when we appear before Him face to face.

    The ultimate family reunion. See you there. 🙂

    "It's the traitor "without" that I have a problem with."

    We fight 'from' victory. We lose a lot of battles, but the war is already won.
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    03 May '18 17:20
    Originally posted by @secondson
    The Bible boils it down to the flesh, the devil and the world.

    The lust of the eyes, the pride of life and the lust of the flesh.

    The concept is enumerated throughout scripture.

    I appreciate your comment about sanctification. We are [b]saved
    by grace through faith in Jesus' substitutionary death on the cross, and sanctified by the "was ...[text shortened]... lem with."[/b]

    We fight 'from' victory. We lose a lot of battles, but the war is already won.[/b]
    Do you not think 'free will' could negate Revelation?

    Why would man freely follow the script laid out within it?
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    04 May '18 08:36
    Originally posted by @secondson
    "It's the traitor "without" that I have a problem with."

    We fight 'from' victory. We lose a lot of battles, but the war is already won.
    Yes, it's true. But there are a lot of innocents here still dying, taken by that traitor "without".

    I understand that this world is just a testing ground, a waypoint. Eternity lies elsewhere, elsewhen. But many who are innocent still lose their lives before they are won. Someone must stand for them.
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    04 May '18 08:51
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Do you not think 'free will' could negate Revelation?

    Why would man freely follow the script laid out within it?
    My answer:

    No. It could, but it won't. And because he (man, as a plural entity) doesn't believe.

    Individuals can only change their own fate within the events coming, through faith.

    Many will be fooled, and follow evil through their free will choice. Others exercising their own free will choice will not concede, will not be used, will not be owned, and they will lose their lives, but they will gain eternity.
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    04 May '18 23:37
    Originally posted by @secondson
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    Causes me wonder how you can know what you need.
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    Introspection.
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    06 May '18 19:38
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    My answer:

    No. It could, but it won't. And because he (man, as a plural entity) doesn't believe.

    Individuals can only change their own fate within the events coming, through faith.

    Many will be fooled, and follow evil through their free will choice. Others exercising their own free will choice will not concede, will not be used, will not be owned, and they will lose their lives, but they will gain eternity.
    If you allow for the possibility, how can you speak against it with such finality?


    “The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.”

    Confucius
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    06 May '18 20:53
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    If you allow for the possibility, how can you speak against it with such finality?


    “The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.”

    Confucius
    <<“The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.”>>

    Jesus’ way is quicker:

    “And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.”

    (Matthew 17:20)
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