Originally posted by @fmfDefine righteous. I define righteous as “in right standing with God.” I’m assuming you do not. I previously asked you for your definition of righteousness and can’t answer that question until you provide it.
Is the supposedly 'good work' - of being the sole caretaker for one’s mother - righteous in and of itself when done by a Christian, even if it does not make the Christian righteous?
Originally posted by @romans1009I did.
There’s plenty of evidence that disputes what you believe about Christianity but you have to be willing to look at it - and look at it with an open heart and mind.
Originally posted by @romans1009Is the supposedly 'good work' - of being the sole caretaker for one’s mother - righteous [as you define it] in and of itself when done by a Christian, even if it does not make the Christian righteous [as you define it]?
Define righteous. I define righteous as “in right standing with God.” I’m assuming you do not. I previously asked you for your definition of righteousness and can’t answer that question until you provide it.
Originally posted by @romans1009How can that possibly be a head-on response to this:
Salvation is obtained by believing in Christ in one’s heart. See John 3:16 and Romans 10:9.
But you can’t understand those verses because of 1 Corinthians 2:14
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
What could be more 'human' than dreaming up a religion centred around a "free gift of grace" and "everlasting life" where there's just some stuff you have to think in order to get it?
Two quotes from a holy text does not address the content of my post which was a point blank answer to what you asked me.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeThe Bill Hicks quote is also uninformed and intellectually shallow. But that’s often the result when atheists who have never opened a Bible try to pontificate about God and Christianity.
“The whole image is that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinite love. That's the message we're brought up with, isn't it? Believe or die! Thank you, forgiving Lord, for all those options.”
Bill Hicks
Carl Sagan said God did not want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge, implying or directly saying (I forget which) that He wanted them ignorant. Of course, it was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil - not just knowledge - which is quite different.
Originally posted by @fmfI define righteousness as “in right standing with God.” Not sure the way in which you asked the question allows that definition.
Is the supposedly 'good work' - of being the sole caretaker for one’s mother - righteous [as you define it] in and of itself when done by a Christian, even if it does not make the Christian righteous [as you define it]?
Originally posted by @romans1009No, it was a Christian - divegeester - think. But I did have a look ~ using the exact word string you suggested ~ and came up with https://gameknot.com/club-fm.pl?club=1205&th=25029 which I found to be a laughable concoction of circular logic and confirmation bias. If that wasn't the site you wanted people to look at, you should be more careful. Utterly laughable.
Weren’t you the one who refused to Google “15 Logical Reasons to Believe the Resurrection,” or was that another atheist?
Originally posted by @fmfBecause salvation and grace are not based, as you claimed, on “stuff you have to think in order to get it.”
How can that possibly be a head-on response to this:
[b]What could be more 'human' than dreaming up a religion centred around a "free gift of grace" and "everlasting life" where there's just some stuff you have to think in order to get it?
Two quotes from a holy text does not address the content of my post which was a point blank answer to what you asked me.[/b]
Originally posted by @romans1009Love God and your neighbour as yourself AND Love for God is demonstrated by love for others.
The law won’t make you righteous, but if you’re relying on that to make you righteous, you’re a debtor to do the whole law.
And what did Jesus say were the two greatest commandments, upon which hung all the law and the prophets?
Love for God is NOT demonstrated by profession of faith. That is mouth worship which you are promoting.
Originally posted by @romans1009Those who follow Christ commandments are in the right standing with God.
I define righteousness as “in right standing with God.” Not sure the way in which you asked the question allows that definition.
Those who profess their faith are not necessarily in the right standing with God.
It is only when they begin to live righteously and do good works are they in the right standing with God.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou have asked me this countless times. I discussed it with you, to the extent I wished to, several times, but you kept asking about it over and over and over again and claiming that we hadn't discussed it. I eventually stopped bothering and started to respond, instead, by simply stating that my answer hadn't changed and that I feel no reason to repeat myself. That is my response on this occasion too.
Interestingly enough you cannot seem to point out what it is exactly that made your faith crumble.
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Originally posted by @rajk999You seem to have the strange idea in your head that people who profess their faith don't love God or their neighbours. Where did you get it from?
Love God and your neighbour as yourself AND Love for God is demonstrated by love for others.
Love for God is NOT demonstrated by profession of faith. That is mouth worship which you are promoting.