15 Jul '09 14:39>
the American league win 4-3
Originally posted by quackquackand yet another year of home field advantage to the al team in the world series regardless of end of season standings. what a joke.
Even though the American League is better; winning the last 12 completed All star games is amazing. Simply, the better team just does not always win.
Originally posted by whodeythe Yankees were doing the same thing back in the 70s and 80s - including the latter part of the 1963-1982 period when the NL won 19 of the 20 All-star games.
The superiority of the AL to the NL can be directly attributed to the Yankees and their spending habits. Then you have teams like the
Red Sox spend more to keep up with them until most teams in the AL become better than teams in the NL. Until their is parity in baseball, or teams in the NL spend more on payroll, you can expect more of the same. As for myself, I have one response to the outcome of the game which is 😴
Originally posted by whodeyAlthough I wish it were otherwise, last time I checked the Yankees are not the best team in baseball. They are not even in first place in their division. They had only three All Stars (Jeter and Rivera who started the career as Yankees) and one signing Texeira. The AL would have been just as good without Texeria as Morneau, Cabrera, Youkilis and Pena are all arguably as good. It is simply untrue to say the AL won just because the Yankees spend a lot of money.
The superiority of the AL to the NL can be directly attributed to the Yankees and their spending habits. Then you have teams like the
Red Sox spend more to keep up with them until most teams in the AL become better than teams in the NL. Until their is parity in baseball, or teams in the NL spend more on payroll, you can expect more of the same. As for myself, I have one response to the outcome of the game which is 😴
Originally posted by quackquackI think the bottom line is that the baseball union is the best in the world. Time after time MLB has caved to the unions so that it is to the point that players are free to make as much as they want, so long as there is a team willing to pay for them. After that, it is only a matter of teams who want to shell out the dollars so what you have is MLB as a whole being nothing more than a farm system for the big money teams. Its like my team the Reds. They only have one player worth anything who is Joey Votto. So at some point the Reds will have to make a decision once his contract is up and he is worth big bucks. They will either let him walk or lower the talent over all on the team in order to afford him. It kinda reminds me of A-Rod when he played for the Rangers or Griffey when he played for the Reds.
Thanks for crying about payrolls. It always reminds me how great it is to root for a team that invests in its product.
But lets look at real facts:
(1) Baseball already have a luxury tax to help teams that won't spend and many of them pocket it and don't invest in their product. If baseball needs anything, it needs minimum payrolls, not maximums. ...[text shortened]... salaries do not mean better players.
None of this however has to do with the All Star game.
Originally posted by quackquackI like the idea of grouping teams accordingn to pay roll than location. Howver, you still have a lack of parity in the division such as the Angels who spend $111 million and the A's who spend $78 million a year. An even bigger discrepency is the Yankees at $218 million and the Orioles at $95 million in the same division. How many of you know that hell will freeze over before Baltimore even sees the post season again?
(3) We group many of the high priced teams in the same division. So the Yankees and Red Sox who spend a lot compete directly while the overwhelming majority of small market/ incompetent cheap organiztions like the Pirates and Kansas City compete in the Central Divison. If the divisions were reformed and the Yankees did not have to play in the best division in baseball they would spend less.
Originally posted by quackquackWell said, I hate this talk about payroll when a team is only as good as the owner wants to make it.
Baseball is only dying in places where teams don't spend money.
(1) Over seven million fans attended ball games in New York last year. Both teams were disappointing. Fans want to see teams that invest in their team. If a team can't/ won't spend money you shouldn't be in young own division, you should be out of MLB.
(2) The Orioles have an excellen ...[text shortened]... because it has a small payroll. It is bad because it has not yet developed good players.