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    May 3 (Reuters) - UEFA president Michel Platini refused to jump on the German soccer bandwagon on Friday, saying it was too soon to draw conclusions from Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund reaching the Champions League final.

    Looking for explanations after Bayern and Borussia knocked out Spanish giants Barcelona and Real Madrid respectively, pundits have heaped praise on the German clubs for their efforts in developing home-grown talent.

    "Conclusions are made every year with respect to the finalists. We said the same thing five years ago about English clubs when it was Man United and Chelsea in the final, and about Italian clubs when it was Milan against Juve," Platini, who was knocked out in the World Cup semi-finals twice by Germany as France captain in 1982 and 1986, told a Euro 2016 news conference.

    http://news.yahoo.com/soccer-platini-unconvinced-german-champions-league-domination-143636928.html

    will some please tell Platini that English clubs in comparison to German clubs contain relatively few English nationals. Arsenal at one time did not contain any! One only needs to look at Bayern Munich to realise how many German nationals are in their side. Is there any solution to this in the EPL or will England always be blighted by a poor national side because of a real lack of home grown talent.
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    05 May '13 16:09
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    May 3 (Reuters) - UEFA president Michel Platini refused to jump on the German soccer bandwagon on Friday, saying it was too soon to draw conclusions from Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund reaching the Champions League final.

    Looking for explanations after Bayern and Borussia knocked out Spanish giants Barcelona and Real Madrid respectively, pund ...[text shortened]... ngland always be blighted by a poor national side because of a real lack of home grown talent.
    The Bundesliga has more foreign players (49.5😵 than the the Primeria Division in Spain (37.5😵, in fact the Bundesliga has the fourth highest percentage of foreign players in Europe.
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    05 May '13 16:511 edit
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    The Bundesliga has more foreign players (49.5😵 than the the Primeria Division in Spain (37.5😵, in fact the Bundesliga has the fourth highest percentage of foreign players in Europe.
    yes, but Bayern Munich do not, they have hordes of German nationals in their squad.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Bayern_Munich

    scroll to the bottom,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borussia_Dortmund

    scroll to the bottom and you will see that Borussia Dortmund have even more.

    by comparison, the EPL has on average, a whopping 67 percent of foreign players,

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/default/gastarbeiterstartseite/basics.html
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    07 May '13 20:00
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    May 3 (Reuters) - UEFA president Michel Platini refused to jump on the German soccer bandwagon on Friday, saying it was too soon to draw conclusions from Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund reaching the Champions League final.

    Looking for explanations after Bayern and Borussia knocked out Spanish giants Barcelona and Real Madrid respectively, pund ...[text shortened]... ngland always be blighted by a poor national side because of a real lack of home grown talent.
    i wouldnt say the influx of foreign players has caused problems for the english national team. we have been crap since the 60's. the 70's and 80's were particularly bad. not many foreign players in the leagues back then.

    id say the main reason is our youth policies and training. scouts and coaches pay too much attention to a young players physique, they have to be big and strong with lots of stamina. the small but skillful players dont get a look in. id say it the same for scotland, where are the dalglishes, laws and gemmills. scotland just produces rough, tough, kick and run battlers.

    when england did have skillful players they would shove them out on the wing or occasionally play one in cm of a 442 where they would be to tied up to effect the game. we never have the confidence to let them run a game.
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    08 May '13 07:591 edit
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    i wouldnt say the influx of foreign players has caused problems for the english national team. we have been crap since the 60's. the 70's and 80's were particularly bad. not many foreign players in the leagues back then.

    id say the main reason is our youth policies and training. scouts and coaches pay too much attention to a young players physique, t ...[text shortened]... would be to tied up to effect the game. we never have the confidence to let them run a game.
    you may have a point, look at the Spanish national team, they are all wee guys, yet incredibly skilful. Scotland, bwahahahah, last great player we produced was James MacFadden and he was not liked because he was too skilful for the team. Its our whole philosophy to football that is wrong, dont play football in your own penalty box, results in big kicks up the park, results in scrappy game, here the players simply cannot control the ball, its ludicrous, professional players that cannot control or pass the ball, its elementary, basic stuff, they have no composure, no presence, no vision. I cannot even watch some of the games its so annoying.

    Harry Rednapp would have been an awesome England manager, hes old school, his Tottenham team were awesome to watch, liked open free flowing football, after the manner of Clough, he realises that players win matches, not tactics, yes controversial i know, but its true. Instead you have a competent but somewhat conservative approach in Roy Hodgson, brilliant guy, but probably not too innovative.
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    26 May '13 14:52
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    you may have a point, look at the Spanish national team, they are all wee guys, yet incredibly skilful. Scotland, bwahahahah, last great player we produced was James MacFadden and he was not liked because he was too skilful for the team. Its our whole philosophy to football that is wrong, dont play football in your own penalty box, results in big ki ...[text shortened]... t somewhat conservative approach in Roy Hodgson, brilliant guy, but probably not too innovative.
    awesome game, Germans are light years ahead in soccer terms.
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