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    21 Jun '08 01:42
    Is American boxers the best in the world
    or just some weight classes get dominated
    Mike Tyson American vs John L Sullivan
    Englishmen would be a great fight in any era!
    my money still on Tyson!
  2. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    21 Jun '08 04:52
    Originally posted by larry newell
    Is American boxers the best in the world
    or just some weight classes get dominated
    Mike Tyson American vs John L Sullivan
    Englishmen would be a great fight in any era!
    my money still on Tyson!
    Sorry, Tyson got thrashed by a Brit named Lennox Lewis.
  3. Standard memberirontigran
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    mixed martial arts is so popular in US right now and boxing is getting lower (both at pro levels and am levels) that id say England is better even though i dont know who they have

    edit: but if you were to compare MMA fighters id say US #1, Brazil #2, and a large dropoff after that
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    21 Jun '08 12:13
    Then how do you know England is better
    if you do not know any english fighters?
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    23 Jun '08 08:46
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Sorry, Tyson got thrashed by a Brit named Lennox Lewis.
    Would Lewis at his best have beaten Tyson at his best?

    I'd say not.
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    23 Jun '08 13:59
    Originally posted by asromacalcio
    Would Lewis at his best have beaten Tyson at his best?

    I'd say not.
    I don't know.
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    23 Jun '08 16:57
    Originally posted by larry newell
    Is American boxers the best in the world
    or just some weight classes get dominated
    Mike Tyson American vs John L Sullivan
    Englishmen would be a great fight in any era!
    my money still on Tyson!
    Are you saying that John L Sullivan is English?
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    23 Jun '08 20:301 edit
    Originally posted by irontigran
    mixed martial arts is so popular in US right now and boxing is getting lower (both at pro levels and am levels) that id say England is better even though i dont know who they have

    edit: but if you were to compare MMA fighters id say US #1, Brazil #2, and a large dropoff after that
    I wouldn't say a huge drop-off to number 3 Mexico.

    And boxing is boring. Let's jab at each other for 6 rounds.
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    23 Jun '08 23:31
    I don't think that has been a better heavyweight since Lewis. He would've frustrated Tyson at his best and beat him. He was powerful enough to handle Tyson and keep him at bay.
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    who is the best all around fighter in the world right now??
    couture? hes old but smart.. im not up on things right now but a year ago today id say it might be him.. as already said rampage is very good..
    i think its impossible to answer a boxer as a guy like randy takes them down, ground and pound and submits them with ease.. weve known just boxing cant do it alone since 1993, which is when people started slowly losing interest im guessing
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    24 Jun '08 18:42
    Originally posted by badmoon
    I don't think that has been a better heavyweight since Lewis. He would've frustrated Tyson at his best and beat him. He was powerful enough to handle Tyson and keep him at bay.
    That's hard to say as there has never been anyone like Tyson in his (very short) prime.
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    24 Jun '08 19:27
    Originally posted by larry newell
    Is American boxers the best in the world
    or just some weight classes get dominated
    Mike Tyson American vs John L Sullivan
    Englishmen would be a great fight in any era!
    my money still on Tyson!
    I think Teofilo Stevens could have been one of the greatest professional boxers ever, but unfortunately he was Cuban and never got the chance to fight a professional fight because he was property of the state. Ali was a great champion, but he missed many years of his prime due to his suspension for failing to join the Army. Either way, I guess he would have missed those years during his career. I haven't followed too much professional boxing during the last 20 years because so much of it is crooked. These days I watch more mixed martial arts and UFC.
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    24 Jun '08 20:05
    It really depends on what kind of fight it is. A boxer won't be able to hold his own in an MMA match, because oif the kicks and takedowns, but take away take downs and kicks and you take down a lot of MMA'ers bread and butter.
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    Anybody even heard of John l Sullivan?
    he was a bare knuckle fighter who fought
    up to 50 plus rounds over 100 years ago.
    First heavy wieght champ on paper.
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    27 Jun '08 21:24
    Originally posted by NimzovichLarsen
    That's hard to say as there has never been anyone like Tyson in his (very short) prime.
    Buster Douglas beat Tyson when he was in his prime.
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