Rousey vs Holm

Originally posted by utherpendragon
Big fight tonight for MMA fans.
Does not appear to be many here though in our RHP community.

But if there is some, what are your predictions ?

Mine ? I think Rousey will win by submission .
However if Holm can keep her on the outside (that's a BIG if) she is capable of a KO, being the great striker that she is.

I have been watching for over twenty years. I have also participated as an amateur. I have been saying forever, Rhonda is not a fighter. She is a product of a marketing machine. One of the best in the world at one time in Judo. She made herself the bad guy, and made tons of money off of it. What I never liked about her is when she did not shake Miesha Tate's hand after the Tuf competition. Oh, if she was a real fighter, she would have done what Gina Carano did. Fought Cyborg who really is the best in the world until Holm fights her and wins. But after seeing this? I don't see anyone beating Holm in this division for a long time.

That for me was it. Then all you here from Joe Rogan who I use to love, is she is a super hero. NO she is not. She cant take a punch. I always said she gets to tired to easily. and Finally I said the pressure was getting to her. If she had showed even a little respect for the sport and some of her opponents, I would not have minded. She just trashed Holm who is one of the kindest woman in MMA along with Tate. And Zingano.

In any case, I never thought Holm had enough yet. Only two fights in the UFC is never enough. But I think Rhonda thought this would be an easy fight like we all did, and I hate to say it, but what made her famous and rich, also helped with her loss.

I think she looked exhausted, she lost her mind at the weigh in, for no reason by the way. It was Rhonda who rushed Holm, and Holm just put up her hand. It was Rhonda who put her hand on Holm first. I think with some Humility, some very needed rest, and maybe with any luck, she will shut her dam mouth, as she will make money without saying things like I can beat anyone with one arm, I can beat anyone in boxing including the champion of the world, and I can beat the black belt champion in Jiu Jitsu. This is when I knew she had a mind of a child. And it became so stupid I could not listen to it anymore. I am a huge fan, especially as someone who has been in the ring and a cage. It's also why I don't go in the forum and go back and forth like keyboard warriors in here.

I love the fact we have at least us two who are MMA fans. There are more, I will have to tell them this exists. Did you watch the fights tonight? And what did you think? Now I don't have to hear how she is a super hero? Was he smoking to much weed when he said that? Oh, and he said, its not a once in a life time an athlete like her comes along, it is once and then never again in the history of mankind.

I wanted to puke. Rhonda is good enough to beat woman half her size, and who never had one thing that they were the best at. Holm was the best at what she did, and she had the perfect game plan. I have never been happier on fight night. I have never missed one in twenty years. I am also a boxing fan. I am interested in what you thought? And how about the straw weight division? Great fight there. I thought we might have a new champ there for a few rounds.

fyi...I did think if she could get by the first two rounds, and keep her stand up going, Rhonda has no stand up. Knocking out woman who were afraid and had no stand up is not impressive. Holm is a "real" striker, and Muay Thai champion. Tonight everyone saw the difference in a real fighter, and someone who only knows one way to fight. Holm did it. and she was strong enough and I think in better shape. Plus I think it is getting harder for Rhonda to drop weight. she competed at 154 in Judo for the Bronze Medal. I will keep watching this over and over. My god I wont sleep. lol lol

Originally posted by utherpendragon
@ VESPIN

I could not agree more with your assessment. I had a strong feeling all the hype was getting to Rousey. That is, where she was actually believing it herself.. The "greatest athlete" in history, a super girl, unbeatable, etc. Nobody is unbeatable.
I call it the Mike Tyson affect. (too much too fast and believing what the press says about ...[text shortened]... psychologically.
Over all I think it is good for the sport that the fight went the way it did.

I agree with every single point you had. You said it better then me. I will not lie. But I did not have all the info as I usually do. So, I said in many posts in forums, that if she won, it would be by knockout with a kick. Which she did, but the truth is, RR was already so exhausted and a bit hurt, she stood up without even covering up, and Holly hit her with a home run Muay Thai Kick. I blame her coach. GSP showed everyone the blue print. I actually feel sorry for Rhonda now. I want her humble yes.

But that poor girl, I thought of my daughter. she looked so lost, so confused. Someone close to her should have told her to TONE it down a bit, the ufc should have allowed her more time in the gym, and more time at home. Everyone knows Rhonda. She did not have to be on every single show around the world. My god.

First, we both know your don't rush Rhonda who is a judo expert. Common sense right? We both know you don't rush a striker that is world class, like rushing mike tyson, it is stupid. Notice the difference in corners?

Holm had four people, including Jackson from Tri Star (trainer of GSP, Jones, Evans), and each person gave one piece of advice for Holm who was not tired.

Rhonda had her coach telling her she was doing great. This guy is a dum ass. If he wants to organize things fine. But bring in two more trainers, and one guy to make the game plan. And bring in the best person in the world for each art form.

Lastly, Rhonda's body looked different. They kept her way to busy. They needed to allow her to rest, train, and less marketing.

Holm still would have won, but maybe Rhonda would not have looked scared, and like a little girl instead of a woman. That poor girl had no clue what to do. Now I know why Rhonda's mother flipped out.

Her trainer is suppose to protect their fighter. He didn't. She needs time off, drop the attitude, but still be confident. I also think a sports therapist would help her. she needs to say no and take more time to be in the gym.

Now, what do you think about December 12th? If you look at my MMA thread, it will tell you the whole card, or I can give you the link in here. This card has my hair standing up.

I think Rhonda will come back. but she is going to need a lot of support. To much to fast like you said. Same as I said about Jones. 🙂 I am thrilled you are a fan. 🙂

Originally posted by utherpendragon
@ VESPIN

I could not agree more with your assessment. I had a strong feeling all the hype was getting to Rousey. That is, where she was actually believing it herself.. The "greatest athlete" in history, a super girl, unbeatable, etc. Nobody is unbeatable.
I call it the Mike Tyson affect. (too much too fast and believing what the press says about ...[text shortened]... psychologically.
Over all I think it is good for the sport that the fight went the way it did.

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/11/dana-white-notebook-cyborg-probably-next-for-rousey-doesnt-want-hughes-vs-serra-2

Originally posted by utherpendragon
Big fight tonight for MMA fans.
Does not appear to be many here though in our RHP community.

But if there is some, what are your predictions ?

Mine ? I think Rousey will win by submission .
However if Holm can keep her on the outside (that's a BIG if) she is capable of a KO, being the great striker that she is.

THIS IS THE UFC 194 CARD, Possibly the biggest and best card in the History of the UFC. check out the Main card here, and the under card. The main card is the best since GSP was in his prime, maybe as far back as Mat Hughes. Top to bottom it's amazing.

http://www.mmafighting.com/fight-card/681/ufc-194-aldo-mcgregor

Originally posted by utherpendragon
Big fight tonight for MMA fans.
Does not appear to be many here though in our RHP community.

But if there is some, what are your predictions ?

Mine ? I think Rousey will win by submission .
However if Holm can keep her on the outside (that's a BIG if) she is capable of a KO, being the great striker that she is.

December 12th's card. Top to bottom. One of the best cards in history. it appears Rhonda has not been humbled. I take back what I said. I hope she lands in the upper deck this time. lol Below is the link for the card I am talking about.

http://www.mmafighting.com/fight-card/681/ufc-194-aldo-mcgregor