Spain 2 England 0

We can now officially rubberstamp England as a second rate footballing nation .😳

Originally posted by phil3000
We can now officially rubberstamp England as a second rate footballing nation .😳

Its strange because you have a lot of good young guys coming through, Kane, Sterling, Vardy etc I dunno what the story is, too many players playing on reputation rather than on form. If the late great Cloughy was manager he would stand up to those pansies and the F.A. and talk to them straight, cant do it now a days, its all sports psychology and other jive talk. Hodgson is too hung up on tactics. I have quoted Clough before and I will do it again, 'tactics don't win you matches, players do'.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its strange because you have a lot of good young guys coming through, Kane, Sterling, Vardy etc I dunno what the story is, too many players playing on reputation rather than on form. If the late great Cloughy was manager he would stand up to those pansies and the F.A. and talk to them straight, cant do it now a days, its all sports psychology and ot ...[text shortened]... I have quoted Clough before and I will do it again, 'tactics don't win you matches, players do'.

How old is Vardy?

Spain has consistently the best association football in the world I am told. Is that true?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Spain has consistently the best association football in the world I am told. Is that true?

You might of been told " Spain has consistently the best football team in the world "
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Originally posted by phil3000
You might of been told " Spain has consistently the best football team in the world "
😕

Spain WERE the best football team in the world, 5-10 years ago

got found out in the last World Cup

England, when they played them last week, were too much 'in awe'....played like a poor team vs a good one, waiting for a mistake, trying to be tight in defence. Didn't work.

To be ANY sort of world power England need Rooney on absolute top form, Wellbeck playing well and support from the rest. Until then, we wait!

Originally posted by phil3000
We can now officially rubberstamp England as a second rate footballing nation .😳

I'll admit I know very little about soccer, but pray tell, how does the result in one friendly after 15 consecutive unbeaten games have such devastating impact on your view of England's strength?

Originally posted by sh76
I'll admit I know very little about soccer, but pray tell, how does the result in one friendly after 15 consecutive unbeaten games have such devastating impact on your view of England's strength?

to answer for phil (and any English football fan!)

the 15 games unbeaten run was forged against weak opposition. England were fortunate to be drawn in a v weak group to qualify for Euro 2016. In fairness, we breezed though the group (the main part of the unbeaten run), but there was no 'testing' of our real strength.

Spain are the first major soccer nation that we have played in ages and we came up short. Admittedly, without our 'first choice' team, but it was a test that we failed

Originally posted by Trev33
How old is Vardy?

He's 28