The tournament will continue. Anyone with the intention of having the
tournament come to a screaching halt because they resign their
games and leave the sight is wrong.
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Wow, that was swift... Did you guys manage to get on line at the same
time & slug it out in 1 sitting? (just wondering, because I thought that
I'm no analyst, but I did enjoy going through #119753 - that was a
tough one & I thought you were doing OK until it went wrong. Which
means I would have lost too I guess.
Thanks for playing the games... I know you didn't do it for me or
anyone else, but I appreciate it anyway. I hope you enjoyed them too,
at least a little,
Yes it was aimed at you. I misconstrued the information i got
from this post :
(Re: 1400 - Pointless Now
Posted by belgianfreak [22 October 2002 10:57]
Janey, that's a little rude don't you think?... we all try to muddle on in
English here (with an occasional Flemish lapse). I doubt very many
people here speak Welsh and for all we know you've just instulted
us... I know you haven't, but do you get the idea?
And why is the 1400's pointless? Sorry to be dim, but I never worked
out what the problem was. I picked up that Alley & misslead didn't
want to play each other, but never understood why... is it something to
do with Alley leaving? What's wrong with the other games? I klnow
tenebr8 & T1000 will make excellent matches...)
and eroniously misunderstood you resigning all your games and
changing your profile to read "gone".
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Now i feel very guilty. there was nothing rude in my post by the way, i
chose to use Welsh to say goodbye to misslead knowing Lyn would
read it. If i ever thought that Lyn would be attacked and insulted just
because Belgiumfreak objected to a language other than English,
Dutch or Flemish (all used in the forums) i would not have posted in
that way. It is nice of you to apologize though John. We can all be
It was objected to because you decided to use ENGLISH "1400-
Pointless Now" in your title which showed that you were showing
animosity and then your text was in a FOREIGN language...which
showed that you were trying to hide what you had to say.
I for one was offended just by the title...regardless of what was said
after...which could have only been worse.
That title gave only Janey's way of expressing perhaps a disappointment. That is not creating animosity. And no reason to be
offended. Everybody can disagree or not. No rude language, no accusation, only free expression (the purpose of the forums).
Others have been using non-English language before, either as a joke, or as a comment directed to a particular person (who
would understand). Before concluding that this is hiding something, you could have asked what it means. I believe you know by
The fact that you denote something you don't understand as 'which could have been only worse' says more about your mindset
than about the message.
I agree with what you say about free expression. Janey posted; I
thought that maybe it would hurt some peoples feelings or annoy
people that they didn't know what was being said (you must admit,
the title was at least a little inflamitory), so I suggested that maybe
she could have used a different style. That was my free expression,
without bad language & I was trying to make it clear that I didn't think
she was saying anything nasty, just that it could be concidered rude. I
guess I was hoping for Janey to respond with a translation and an
explanation of why she felt that way - If I was a better diplomat I
would have worded it differently, but I'm not so I appologuise if my
words made things worse... I was honestly only trying to keep the
nb. Janey, thanks for the translation. I do love the sound of Welsh,
but Llath is the only word I (think I) know, and that's because it's
plastered all over the roads.
My "mindset" about the message was the fact that she refered to the
1400 division as "pointless"...now I think the others that are in that
division do not feel that way...and for a person who is not even in that
division to make a comment like that I find to be rude and insensitive
to the people who are not complaining and are just playing their
I have been telling my opponants that i wont be renewing games as
they finish,because i'm taking a break from playing.
Yes, i agree,John,about the profile,so i have changed it now.
Best wishes to you all,Lyn.
There was no insult to anyone that I could see...just seems like a few
people are not happy with the way things have turned out.
And due to this I personally will have nothing to do with organizing or
helping run another tourney on here.
I can now see where the gripe was...after I made the original pairings
I didn't notice that Michael had not put them in the exact order that
they were originally in all of the divisions...and I was just going by his
I said it would not be perfect...and obviously I made a mistake by
letting this slip by. But there is NO reason to call John names. He has
done nothing wrong and has done a tremendous service without any
compensation for this tourney.