Claiming TO

So, would it be fair to claim a TO against Rhymester, even though he
said he was going on vacation? Just a question.

In private games!!! It's up to you. In tournament games, It's still up
to you. I cant advise you here. I'm not impartial. I'm fighting a MAP
War with Andrew. Chuckle!!! Chuckle!! Yeah Claim the timeout.
(Joking) He's a friend and if it is not a tournament game, I would not
do it. But it is still up to you. What do you consider fair? Andrew will be
back on the 16th.
John
King of MAP

I would suggest waiting for him - we all know he will make up for lost
time the moment he gets back - so I wouldn't expect him to hold the
tournaments up.

BTW I still haven't released the fix for claiming timout wins against
people who haven't even moved. This will be coming tonight. (with
any luck)

-Russ

Yes wait for Andrew to get back.The R in Rhymester is as much part of
this site as the R in RHP.

Johan

Well, since he asked in the first place...ok.

But, to reiterate, for the future, I think TOs should be stuck to in
tournaments, regardless of circumstances-- in the interests of equity,
and in the interests of keeping things moving along.

Certainly I don't think the prominence on the site of the person in
question should play any role in the decision.

IMO, this is why they should be automatic in tournaments-- people
can always find reasons to make exceptions.

I agree that in tourneys TO's should be automatic.

I will not be claiming the TO against him in the Alpha - Duel
Tournament since he asked me not to. As this is a one-on-one
competition - this decision only effects me, so as long as we do not
hold up the rest of the tournament I do not see this as unfair on the
other players in this particular competition. As Vaknso said it comes
down to your call. Probably things like this should have been
automatic as part of the tourny set up

Andrew :o)

I was just checking. Everyone seemed out for blood on TO's. I told
him I would not, and will keep my word. I just wanted to see what
some would say.

If he had not asked me specifically not too, I would have claimed it :o)

I claimed timeouts on two games and to my opponents I am truely
sorry but we all knew what we were signing up for when we signed up.
Rhymester didnt lose any ratings points since he didnt start the
games but he did not get any tourney points either..


Jason

I agree but to my knowledge Rhymester is not in the quick fire
tourney so how could there even be a claim win sheild? I do however
believe that even though he signed up for the tournament knowing
that he was going on vacation would essentially leave him open to
haveing many timeouts claimed against him. Im sorry for this post
Andrew ( when you get back) but I am going to claime every move
timeout I can in tournament games. As my father the great king
Vaknso stated earlier I will not claim in private games but
tournaments are to be bound by certain rules and this seems to be
one of them.


jason

Guys this is a tournament...yes..no money involved but for people
who are using this place to get ready for OTB tourneys and such the
rules MUST apply. I like Andrew very much and in a personal game
with him I would never TO him...but this is a different story.

Trust me when it is all said and done eveyone will always be
friends...there will be no love lost on anyone's part. Russ even put a
disclaimer up in the tourney sign up about vacations and such.

If they signed up they AGREED to the terms of the tourney...simple as
that.

If I forget to make a move I EXPECT someone to take it in a
TOURNEY game. I will go "Damn Dave...oh well..lets see if we can't get
it back"

Tournaments are for alot of things..they are for fun (when no money
is involved---although I think Russ should put up some RHP
merchandise as prizes for 1-2-3 places..might boost
subscriptions)...they are to make new friends...and they are for seeing
who can not only be the best..but most resourceful.

Do you all realize the research I have put into this? I have reviewed
every top guy in here and have taken all of their favorite variations
they like to play and spent an extra 6 hours at work the other night
and printed off 1176 pages of games dealing with our players
compared to GM games stemming from their openings....not to
mention the games I have already in my data bases.

I am here to have fun...but to try and win as well...slip and I will land
on you...walk by and I will trip you...I expect you to play the same
against me. Once again...Nice guys finish last.

Just My 0.02

Dave

Once again. We are forging a new ground with Red Hot Pawn
tournaments.I've claimed timeout on two players today. Am I proud of
the games? No! I did not have to work for them. I am proud of the
draw I got with T-1000 in the quick fire tournament.
I have gotten tired of seing all the whining about losing due to
timeout. In non-tournament games I have waithe at times up to two
weeks extra. This is new ground for us all. Several of my opponents in
discussing timeout for the tournament agree with me that timeout
should be automatic and not left up to each individual players. This is
not my site. It belongs to Russ and Chrismo. My position is clear. I will
claim timeout in tournament games when the flag comes up. I dont
care too much for the points or winning in the tourney. I just want to
put an end to the bickering about losing due to timeout. After all what
does anyone lose? I lose more sleep trying to beat T-1000 than I do
about the result of any tournament. Cheers Mark.......
John
King of MAP
PS: Andrew, I'm sure we'll chat when you get back..

Dave,

As you feel so strongly on this and have given the lead, and as we
need to have a standard policy I have TO'd Andrew (Rhymester) in the
Aplha Duel competition. I am sure he will be OK with this.

Andrew

I agree that in tournaments, TOs should be claimed. Should also be
clearly stated at the time of sign up.

It would be easier if this was automatic - would remove any guilt
someone might have doing it.

David