Oh so long ago we tried to get a tournament called "The Drunken King, thematical" going. Something happened and there was no thematic tournament but a tournament was still held and no one (except me and one other person) used the opening.
Why don't we try and get another one started that is thematical? It is a goofy opening that's fun to play (we still have Grob tournaments and that opening sucks harder than a vacuum).
Originally posted by slappy115 Oh so long ago we tried to get a tournament called "The Drunken King, thematical" going. Something happened and there was no thematic tournament but a tournament was still held and no one (except me and one other person) used the opening.
Why don't we try and get another one started that is thematical? It is a goofy opening that's fun to play (we still have Grob tournaments and that opening sucks harder than a vacuum).
Who's all with me?
A brilliant idea, for those who don't already know the Hammerschlag goes 1.f3! e5 2.Kf2!!
Sounds interesting to me. What would be the initial position? White's first two moves are obvious, but what would be black's one response? I suppose 1. ... e5 makes the most sense, but I can see other good moves, too.
Originally posted by wittywonka Sounds interesting to me. What would be the initial position? White's first two moves are obvious, but what would be black's one response? I suppose 1. ... e5 makes the most sense, but I can see other good moves, too.
1..e5 is by far the most common response and it can transpose into nearly all of the Hammerschlags variations.
Originally posted by KnightStalker47 1. ... e5 is by far the most common response and it can transpose into nearly all of the Hammerschlags variations.
Is there a way that the player using Black could choose the move, then Kf2 would be a mandatory response? I too would like to use 1...d5, but if it is not possible, 1...e5 is fine by me.
Originally posted by scaredkitty Is there a way that the player using Black could choose the move, then Kf2 would be a mandatory response? I too would like to use 1...d5, but if it is not possible, 1...e5 is fine by me.
I don't think thats possible. I wish it were though, because lines that don't involve e5 are much easier for white.
Just dumb on my part but is this really a valid opening??? What I mean is are there any advantage down the road for this position, or is it just a theoretical opening to show off strategies that discourage castling?? I would think it would be almost a sure loss against an evenly rated opponent, would it not???
Thx, Gary Thomas
Originally posted by Gary Thomas Just dumb on my part but is this really a valid opening??? What I mean is are there any advantage down the road for this position, or is it just a theoretical opening to show off strategies that discourage castling?? I would think it would be almost a sure loss against an evenly rated opponent, would it not???
Thx, Gary Thomas
The idea behind it is to give you a more developed king for the endgame. It is surprisingly solid, many people underestimate it and that causes their downfall. I use this opening all the time in RHP blitz and uchess.com. I occationally beat people that are even higher rated then me with this. I have scored a draw against a 2050 rated player(that rating is a CC rating, but I would expect their blitz rating to be at least 1800). I have about a 4:1 win loss ratio with it too 🙂
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