Oh so long ago we tried to get a tournament called "The Drunken King, thematical" going. Something happened and there was no thematic tournament but a tournament was still held and no one (except me and one other person) used the opening.
Why don't we try and get another one started that is thematical? It is a goofy opening that's fun to play (we still have Grob tournaments and that opening sucks harder than a vacuum).
Who's all with me?
- Joined
- 12 Nov 06
- Moves
- 74414
Originally posted by slappy115A brilliant idea, for those who don't already know the Hammerschlag goes 1.f3! e5 2.Kf2!!
Oh so long ago we tried to get a tournament called "The Drunken King, thematical" going. Something happened and there was no thematic tournament but a tournament was still held and no one (except me and one other person) used the opening.
Why don't we try and get another one started that is thematical? It is a goofy opening that's fun to play (we still have Grob tournaments and that opening sucks harder than a vacuum).
Who's all with me?
- Joined
- 12 Nov 06
- Moves
- 74414
Originally posted by wittywonka1..e5 is by far the most common response and it can transpose into nearly all of the Hammerschlags variations.
Sounds interesting to me. What would be the initial position? White's first two moves are obvious, but what would be black's one response? I suppose 1. ... e5 makes the most sense, but I can see other good moves, too.
Originally posted by wittywonkathe majority would like this.. but whats wrong with black going 1..c5 and 2..d5 ? i personally like that setup better somehow..
Then let there be the tournament!
[fen]rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/8/5P2/PPPPPKPP/RNBQ1BNR[/fen]
1. f3 e5 2. Kf2
but e5 is nice..
- Joined
- 12 Nov 06
- Moves
- 74414
Originally posted by scaredkittyI don't think thats possible. I wish it were though, because lines that don't involve e5 are much easier for white.
Is there a way that the player using Black could choose the move, then Kf2 would be a mandatory response? I too would like to use 1...d5, but if it is not possible, 1...e5 is fine by me.
Just dumb on my part but is this really a valid opening??? What I mean is are there any advantage down the road for this position, or is it just a theoretical opening to show off strategies that discourage castling?? I would think it would be almost a sure loss against an evenly rated opponent, would it not???
Thx, Gary Thomas
- Joined
- 12 Nov 06
- Moves
- 74414
Originally posted by Gary ThomasThe idea behind it is to give you a more developed king for the endgame. It is surprisingly solid, many people underestimate it and that causes their downfall. I use this opening all the time in RHP blitz and uchess.com. I occationally beat people that are even higher rated then me with this. I have scored a draw against a 2050 rated player(that rating is a CC rating, but I would expect their blitz rating to be at least 1800). I have about a 4:1 win loss ratio with it too 🙂
Just dumb on my part but is this really a valid opening??? What I mean is are there any advantage down the road for this position, or is it just a theoretical opening to show off strategies that discourage castling?? I would think it would be almost a sure loss against an evenly rated opponent, would it not???
Thx, Gary Thomas