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  1. Subscriber jcandance
    White Hats Rule!
    15 Oct '03 03:41
    Check out game http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=298214

    anybody think that this is NOT right for a tournament?
  2. Standard member skeeter
    515 + 30 days
    15 Oct '03 07:36
    Originally posted by jcandance
    Check out game http://www.redhotpawn.com/gameanalysis/boardhistory.php?gameid=298214

    anybody think that this is NOT right for a tournament?
    looks like an agreed draw for reasons unbeknown. Perhaps an unexpected crisis on the part of one player to which the other generously conceeded a draw. Who knows, both players are continents apart and from different clans so don't think its a conspiracy. All the same a strange conclusion to a game.??

    skeeter
  3. Subscriber jcandance
    White Hats Rule!
    15 Oct '03 12:07
    Originally posted by skeeter
    looks like an agreed draw for reasons unbeknown. Perhaps an unexpected crisis on the part of one player to which the other generously conceeded a draw. Who knows, both players are continents apart and from different clans so don't think its a conspiracy. All the same a strange conclusion to a game.??

    skeeter
    except it wasn't a clan match, it was in a tournament...and if said player had a crisis, wouldn't he have tried to draw with all of us?
  4. Standard member derek9037
    Elder Statesman
    15 Oct '03 14:26 / 1 edit
    I think something strange is happening in this tournament 🙄

    Game 298206

    Game 298235
  5. 15 Oct '03 21:23
    Originally posted by derek9037
    I think something strange is happening in this tournament 🙄

    Game 298206

    Game 298235
    From experience, I know that Hessel always offers a draw in a lost position...

    -Tim
  6. 15 Oct '03 21:41
    Originally posted by TimmyToilet
    From experience, I know that Hessel always offers a draw in a lost position...

    -Tim
    I have played Hessel too, to his credit he beat me in one game, and the other I got so tired of seeing the offer of a draw everytime his game popped up I finally accepted just to get rid of it. Even though he was in a stronger position and had more material (I'm no dummy).
    Maybe he is just being merciful?😀
  7. 15 Oct '03 21:46
    Pateman seems to have agreed to a draw in a clearly winning position, and it seems Stripes offered the draw in his other game despite beeing a rook ahead.

    I'm especially baffled by Pateman's acceptance of the draw, as he's clearly in the running for winning the tournament. 😕

    I smell a conspiracy! 🙄😉

    -Jarno
  8. 15 Oct '03 22:13
    Originally posted by Pyrrho
    Pateman seems to have agreed to a draw in a clearly winning position, and it seems Stripes offered the draw in his other game despite beeing a rook ahead.

    I'm especially baffled by Pateman's acceptance of the draw, as he's clearly in the running for winning the tournament. 😕

    I smell a conspiracy! 🙄😉

    -Jarno
    It seems to be a pretty bone headed conspiracy if only one can win. Not that it could'nt happen, maybe they are taking turns. People that will win at the cost of honour I have no time for.

    Mike
  9. Standard member a442
    Planet Football
    17 Oct '03 05:56
    Hassel is a complete joke! I kicked his backside in one clan game and am currently doing the same in our second clan game, so half way through all of a sudden, he accuses me of being a cheat and "im now on the black list" and the draw offer starts coming out! He has now followed that up by saying, "ok your not a cheat, but I wont be playing you or your clan again, we dont like people like you". Obviously he dosnt like people who play of a higher standard than him, which considering his suspect game history, really isnt hard. Not that its any of his business, but ive playing chess for over 25 years and regularly beat the computer, my mate said this site was great and very addictive, but im beginning to wonder why I bothered. I didnt come on this site to start taking abuse off this joker!!!
  10. 17 Oct '03 13:18
    No conspiracy, he made a obviously very stupid move in error and asked for a draw and I agreed. My reason was largely that chess is a game and in a real world game I would have given the mover over but we can't do that here.

    Was I wrong, well to be honest in the clear light of day I think I was and certainly if I lose this tournament by 1 or 2 points then absolutely I was and I will be most hacked off. At the time I had been playing for hours and was tired and should have slept on the request - but hey like anybody else here I'm human and make mistakes, not only game mistakes.

    Would I do it again? No idea, will cross that bridge when I come to it.

    But trust me no conspiracy.......
  11. 17 Oct '03 13:20
    Oh an at the time of accepting the draw I didn't figure that I could be seriously in the running to win overall.

    Anyways now water under the bridge and we wait and see.......
  12. 17 Oct '03 13:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by 442
    I didnt come on this site to start taking abuse off this joker!!!
    442, there are some *real* crazies here but one just avoids them....
  13. Standard member a442
    Planet Football
    17 Oct '03 15:24
    Unfortunately, I couldnt avoid him as it was a clan challenge! 😠
  14. 17 Oct '03 17:27
    My input about the conspiracy was made in jest I don't think it would happen.
    442,
    Russ just had to kick out some one who was pretty abusive. You run into them. and if you get them again you could just let the game time out or notify russ. We all try to have fun and not everyone is bad news.
    sorry you have had a bad experience.

    Mike
  15. Standard member a442
    Planet Football
    17 Oct '03 17:40
    I actually let rip on "Hassel", for which I got a warning from Russ, but when I pleaded mitagating circumstances and explained the situation, he kind of understood why! Hassel eventually saw sense and resigned the second game. There had been no communication wot so ever between us until the cheat allegations and then he wonders why he gets abuse. I get the impression from several people that "Hassel" is generally antaganistic during his games with continuous "draw" offers etc. Anyway, I honestly dont know if im any good at chess as havin g played most of my chess "career" against computers, but it kind of gets stale after a while and you long for a human opponent (all be it, across the internet)!....🙄