Originally posted by robbie carrobierobbie,
You see Crusty I really resent you demonising the drinking of a few beers simply because you could not do so with moderation. Alcohol is not a problem for most people and in the case of alcoholics its abuse is merely a symptom of some other underlying problem. You are tea total, which is good for you, but its simply another form of extremism and I w ...[text shortened]... em simply because they enjoy a few beers with moderation. Thankyou in advance, your fan, Robbie.
Now it started off with you having one a day. Now you are up to a few beers, when did that change? I have some news that you may not like to hear but this is a FACT. Anyone who drinks Alcohol is a potential Alcoholic.
I thought I was a sociable drinker for years, because I held down a job in a management position. Only derelicts were alcoholics as far as I was concerned. How wrong I turned out to be.
I am not insinuating anything about other people just YOU! Do you understand that? This has nothing to do with anyone but you, don't try to involve other people in it. You are the one who had only 1 beer a day and didn't have it until 5:00 p.m., now you seem to be up to a few beers!
I see the warning signs, where you are moody, and lash out at people for very little reason at times. Sure, I know I can pull your chains and get under you skin at times, but it isn't just me you do it to. You also lash out at others for things that wouldn't even matter to you at one time. I've seen the changes in you, even if you don't.
Hell, I was the last one to find out I was an Alcoholic. Everyone else knew, I didn't. In my mind I wasn't one until the day I finally admitted in 1985, that I did have a problem. It took me another 7 years until March 22 of 1992 to actually quit. It was easier getting there, than coming back. Ask any Ex- Alcoholic that knows. I am trying to help you, you just can't see it.
Kind Regards,
Very Sincerely,
-VR
Originally posted by Very RustyHe lashes out at Lemondrop regularly.
robbie,
Now it started off with you having one a day. Now you are up to a few beers, when did that change? I have some news that you may not like to hear but this is a FACT. Anyone who drinks Alcohol is a potential Alcoholic.
I thought I was a sociable drinker for years, because I held down a job in a management position. Only derelicts we ...[text shortened]... at knows. I am trying to help you, you just can't see it.
Kind Regards,
Very Sincerely,
-VR
Whips....chains.....good old Lemondrop !!! He wouldn't miss it for the world.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieMethinks thou art full of crap
Your text is a logically fallacious argument (strawman) and does not follow from my statement (Non sequitur) because it contains values that not only have not been explicitly expressed but cannot logically or rationally be derived from my text. If you can demonstrate how torturing someone for an eternity in a place of fiery torment is congruous with ...[text shortened]... off sticking to what you are good at, sandbagging and talking copious amounts of Texan Longhorn.
Originally posted by Very RustyI don't want or need your help, do you understand? I resent your demoninsing of people like me who enjoy a beer with moderation. You have gone from one extreme to another, fine, I prefer balance and moderation. I disagree that anyone who drinks alcohol is potential alcoholic, thats like saying anyone who has a gun is a potential serial killer, is that what you are saying, is it, really? No? well behave yourself. Alcohol is not a problem, and I suggest to you that your problem was not alcohol but some other underlying problem. Alcohol was merely a rather poor way to deal with it. Stop blaming the beer Crusty and man up! I can help you!
robbie,
Now it started off with you having one a day. Now you are up to a few beers, when did that change? I have some news that you may not like to hear but this is a FACT. Anyone who drinks Alcohol is a potential Alcoholic.
I thought I was a sociable drinker for years, because I held down a job in a management position. Only derelicts we ...[text shortened]... at knows. I am trying to help you, you just can't see it.
Kind Regards,
Very Sincerely,
-VR
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI believe you were recently pulled over by the police and given a random breath test. Luckily they didn't find too much blood in your alcohol system !!!
I don't want or need your help, do you understand? I resent your demoninsing of people like me who enjoy a beer with moderation. You have gone from one extreme to another, fine, I prefer balance and moderation. I disagree that anyone who drinks alcohol is potential alcoholic, thats like saying anyone who has a gun is a potential serial killer, is th ...[text shortened]... ely a rather poor way to deal with it. Stop blaming the beer Crusty and man up! I can help you!
Originally posted by robbie carrobierobbie,
I don't want or need your help, do you understand? I resent your demoninsing of people like me who enjoy a beer with moderation. You have gone from one extreme to another, fine, I prefer balance and moderation. I disagree that anyone who drinks alcohol is potential alcoholic, thats like saying anyone who has a gun is a potential serial killer, is th ...[text shortened]... ely a rather poor way to deal with it. Stop blaming the beer Crusty and man up! I can help you!
You are comparing apples to oranges again. There is a big difference between owning a gun and being a potential serial killer. The potential is there for someone to get shot though, is it not? You can disagree all you want that anyone who drinks can't become an alcoholic simply because you drink every day. You could very well be lying about the amount you drink.
Don't try and tell me anything about being an alcoholic. I been there and back again. What is your underlying problem? You seem to strongly believe that is the problem. It can also run in the genes, my father was once an alcoholic, but then I know Ex-alcoholics who's fathers never drank. So that doesn't prove a thing.
Good for you that you believe you have it all under control. Stop lashing out at people over little things, would do more for people to believe your story. Now you went back to having 1 beer again....LOL... Sir, you have to help yourself before you can help anyone else.
Strong denial for someone who doesn't have a drinking problem. Most would just laugh it off. You seem like you have to prove it isn't true. Or are you trying to convince yourself?
The path from alcohol abuse to alcoholism
Not all alcohol abusers become full-blown alcoholics, but it is a big risk factor. Sometimes alcoholism develops suddenly in response to a stressful change, such as a breakup, retirement, or another loss. Other times, it gradually creeps up on you as your tolerance to alcohol increases. If you’re a binge drinker or you drink every day, the risks of developing alcoholism are greater.
Kindest Regards,
Have a wonderful afternoon,
Is it 5:00 p.m. yet where you live. 😉
Give my best to your wife, perhaps ask her what she thinks,
I know you will not give us an answer if it doesn't go along with what your saying,
Sincerely,
-VR
Originally posted by lemondropI hope I go to hell. Don't really think I'll know anyone in heaven.........besides there probably won't be any pubs or casino's up there either. I'd be bored senseless in heaven in no time begging for god to sent me down stairs.
thank god i'm an atheist
no heaven
no hell
no worries
Yes.....atheism is the new black !!!
Originally posted by Very RustyEven Jesus came drinking craft beer and people said he was a drunkard and a friend of tax collectors and sinners, what chance do I a mere mortal have. You keep up the extremism old bean and Ill go for a little balance and moderation. If you find the courage to man up and take responsibility instead of blaming it on alcohol I am here to help you face reality - your friend Robbie.
robbie,
You are comparing apples to oranges again. There is a big difference between owning a gun and being a potential serial killer. The potential is there for someone to get shot though, is it not? You can disagree all you want that anyone who drinks can't become an alcoholic simply because you drink every day. You could very well be lying a ...[text shortened]... ow you will not give us an answer if it doesn't go along with what your saying,
Sincerely,
-VR