The Triune God in Revelation 4&5

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Actually thats a falsehood, Darby and other's have recognised the Greek idiom and translated it accordingly.

Parallel Verses
New International Version
"The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;

New Living Translation
"The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else.

English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old.

New American Standard Bible
"The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.

King James Bible
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The LORD made me at the beginning of His creation, before His works of long ago.

International Standard Version
"The LORD made me as he began his planning, before his ancient activity commenced.

NET Bible
The LORD created me as the beginning of his works, before his deeds of long ago.

New Heart English Bible
"The LORD created me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Jubilee Bible 2000
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

King James 2000 Bible
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

American King James Version
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

American Standard Version
Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.

Douay-Rheims Bible
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his ways, before he made any thing from the beginning.

Darby Bible Translation
Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

English Revised Version
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Originally posted by divegeester
oh really? Well here is the Darby translation:

"1In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am sure Darby translated the text as the word was divine, perhaps it was another translation could be mistaken. So tell us what you find objectionable in the New World translation rendering and how it diverges from the Greek. This should be intetesting.

Darby Bible Translation
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Originally posted by sonship
John 1:1 - John Nelson Darby - A New Translation

[b] Darby Bible Translation
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I think I may know what you might be referring to which Darby said he did not believe the sense of the Greek was supportive to the Deity of Christ, a truth which he ...[text shortened]... obedience leads to deeper understanding of the revelation of God? I absolutely do believe that.[/b]

Originally posted by divegeester
Well that's what it says in the Bible; well in all the Bibles except the JW one 😉

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am sure Darby translated the text as the word was divine, perhaps it was another translation could be mistaken. So tell us what you find objectionable in the New World translation rendering and how it diverges from the Greek. This should be intetesting. Tell the forum what the Moffatt translation says.

Originally posted by divegeester
On the previous page you said this:

[b]"I personally dont think you have the necessary knowledge to know what an accurate translation is to be honest your Biblical knowledge being scant to non existent at best. Infact lets put you to the test. What exactly is it about the New world translation rendering that you find disagrees with the Greek text."[/b ...[text shortened]... er was in fact correct; do you have the grace to acknowledge this and apologise for your insult?

Originally posted by divegeester
On the previous page you said this:

[b]"I personally dont think you (divegeester) have the necessary knowledge to know what an accurate translation is to be honest your Biblical knowledge being scant to non existent at best."

My statement which you insulted me over was in fact correct and YOU were incorrect, so do you have the grace to acknowledge this and apologise for your insult?[/b]

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
1808 “and the word was a god” The New Testament, in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text, London.

1864 “and a god was the Word” The Emphatic Diaglott ( interlinear reading), by Benjamin Wilson, New York and London.

1935 “and the Word was divine” The Bible—An Ameri ...[text shortened]... ivine, godlike etc' making your statement, (we wont call it a lie just yet) demonstrably FALSE!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No its not an insult its a fact and we are here to prove it. Tell the forum and this is the third time I have asked you what you find objectionable about the New World Translations rendering of the text John 1:1 and how it diverges from the Greek.

Originally posted by divegeester
Can you provide the links to your sources?
Are these broadly acknowledged translations?
Why have you nay posts part of the scripture?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No its not an insult its a fact and we are here to prove it. Tell the forum and this is the third time I have asked you what you find objectionable about the New World Translations rendering of the text John 1:1 and how it diverges from the Greek.

Originally posted by divegeester
You cited Darby and you were wrong. Admit it?

Originally posted by divegeester
I find the JW version of the Bible to be a travesty, a triumph of corporate cultism over truth. The scripture in John as appears in the vast majority of most accepted mainstream Bibles indicates that Jesus is the word and he is God. You lot don't like that have amazingly come up with a translation with is different.