@mott-the-hoople said
show your proof of “ mass attacks on police”

oh thats right, you are lying

How delusional can you get?

One of literally hundreds of videos available to the public: YouTube

@wajoma said
It is relevant to this:

"...what we have is right wingers again using violence for political reasons."

Didn't have to look hard, in fact only had to go back a few days to find left whingers from all over the world using violence (the MO of the left) for political reasons.

That makes it an irrelevant "whataboutism" even assuming the incidents were not actions of police repression rather than mass violence by demonstrators (discussion of which would be an irrelevant side track - which is apparently what you are shooting for since you cannot contest the accuracy of my statement).

EDIT: I usually don't waste my time watching YouTubes but the one you presented didn't show a single policeman being attacked, never mind the scale of violence that occurred on January 6, 2021 so I rate it as a "false whataboutism".

@mott-the-hoople said
jan 6th was just a “sit in” …per your very words

You might want to check those film clips I provided.

Sit-ins are not proceeded by mass attacks on police but by peaceful occupation of areas and/or buildings.

@wajoma said
I also made a truthful statement.

Even if it was it is irrelevant to the issue in this thread.

@athousandyoung said
No. Motive does not make non-crimes into crimes.

If a Jew hater storms the University administration building with a knife because he hates the Jewish school President he should go to prison.

If a government hater storms the Capitol building with a knife because he hates the politics of the US President there's a strong argument for sending him to Guantanamo.

If Jews are frightened by pro-Palestinian protestors' camps then they should grow a pair.

A disproportionate percentage of those initially arrested at Columbia for trespassing were Jews, mostly affiliated with the group Jewish Voice for Peace - which is an organizer of many of the anti-war encampment throughout the country.

@wajoma said
You made an accusation, only had to go back a couple of days to find violence is the MO of left whingers. You'd like to make rules about how people respond to what you've said?? That's because you know what you said is BS and you don't like being called on your BS.

I made a truthful statement, something you seem to abhor.

Your dubious "whataboutism" does not change the truth of my statement or the falseness of any supposed comparisons between the actions of the insurrectionists on January 6, 2021 and those of the recent campus protestors against Israel's war on the People in Gaza.

@wajoma said
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5O_xix21yE
Headline: "May Day 2024: Labour activists, riot police clash globally in protests for workers’ rights"

International left whingers.

Wrong "whataboutism".

Please reread the first post here and try to stay on-topic.

@mott-the-hoople said
https://nypost.com/2024/05/01/us-news/ucla-protests-turn-violent-as-fights-break-out-and-firecrackers-explode/

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/01/1248433624/protests-campus-ucla-universities-israel-gaza-palestinians

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/college-protests-turn-violent/ar-AA1nZVpp

You must be joking or didn't bother to read your own links:

"Violence erupted at the University of California, Los Angeles on Tuesday night, after pro-Israel demonstrators attempted to forcibly dismantle an encampment of dozens of tents set up by pro-Palestinian protesters who have been camping on the school's Dickson Plaza, a central green space on campus."

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/01/1248433624/protests-campus-ucla-universities-israel-gaza-palestinians

So any violence at UCLA was caused by right wing vigilantes illegally attacking the peaceful protesters.

This is even more clear in this LA Times article: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-01/a-night-of-violence-and-lawlessness-at-ucla-amid-gaza-protests

Excerpts:

"UCLA was rocked by violence when a group of counterprotesters arrived on campus Tuesday night and clashed for hours with students who had set up a pro-Palestinian encampment.

It took hours for police to push away the counterprotesters and bring calm to the campus, raising sharp questions about whether the campus was prepared for the unrest. During that time, there was a series of attacks on the camp and fights as the pro-Palestinian group tried to defend their space."

"People inside the camp send urgent appeals for help, saying their area is under attack."

"Videos on social media show the camp under siege. People wearing black outfits and white masks are seen trying to tear down the barricades surrounding the encampment."

"Video shows fireworks landing inside the camp and waves of counterprotesters rushing at the barriers that served as the camp boundaries."

"Violence appears to intensify. Reporters see counterprotesters throwing objects at the camp and its occupants and trying to breach the barrier."

"Lines of officers from several agencies arrive at the camp and push the remaining counterprotesters out of the quad area."

So far from any pictures similar to the mass attacks on police during the January 6th insurrection, what we have is right wingers again using violence for political reasons.

I meant to update this thread regularly and comment on the evidence presented at the trial, but I've been too busy to follow the testimony closely. I'll try to review what went on the last week and post regarding it sometime this weekend but it's a beautiful day in upstate New York (not many of those), so it won't be a priority today.

@mott-the-hoople said
I’m still waiting for your pictures of the police holding the doors open for these terrorist.

Got 3 hours to kill? YouTube

Or if you have a short attention span, you can see the first breach of the Capitol here at about 1:45-2:00. YouTube

Now maybe you or sh76 or Al Sharpton can show me pictures of the same thing happening during the anti-Gaza war campus protests like the OP claims.

I'm waiting.

@mott-the-hoople said
they have taken over buildings dumbass

“almost entirely”
😂

That's what is called a "sit in" and is a long used tactic of nonviolent civil disobedience. https://www.britannica.com/event/sit-in-movement

I'm still waiting for the pictures of these campus protesters mass attacking police in order to gain access to a restricted building.

The fact of the matter, which sh76 won't admit, is that the protests of the Gaza war on US campuses have been almost entirely nonviolent though some have been marked by civil disobedience (say of the sort a man we now have a national holiday in honor of routinely engaged in). There is simply no comparison between these protests and the mass violence of January 6, 2021 and it doesn't matter who suggests differently.

They are wrong.

@sh76 said
Ask Al

So there are none.

Thanks for sharing.

@sh76 said
"How do the Democrats, how do all of us on that side say January 6th was wrong if you can have the same pictures going on on college campuses?"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/05/02/al_sharpton_how_can_democrats_say_january_6th_was_wrong_if_the_same_thing_is_happening_on_college_campuses.html

Could you show these "same" pictures? I haven't seen any of large mobs of the college protestors attacking police like occurred on January 6th.

@averagejoe1 said
I can’t IMAGINE reading links on these issues when the media covers us up hourly, and, importantly, the links are old news……Stuff changes every hour in a world of y’all’s anarchy. Sorry you spent so much research time.

So don't read them; just realize the NY court system disagrees with Fox News and found no legal basis requiring Judge Merchan to recuse.