@Very-Rusty saidNot by me. Would you like a second one to prove so?
@Ghost,
A thumbs down, REALLY???
@Ghost-of-a-Duke said@Ghost,
You should have edited then.
I saw no need to Edit, again you can't help yourself but try to tell me what I should and shouldn't do. I am not one of your minions if you haven't caught on to that FACT yet! 😛 😉
We can either have a nice conversation or you can make it difficult, it is all the same to me. A constructive conversation would be best in my opinion.
Respectfully,
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@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidJiminy cricket 😲
The alerting of the above post is very weird. I can only assume they didn't understand the word blimey.
Must be a British thing.
@The-only-Mr-T saidSo much for a serious conversation concerning the 2026 Clan Rules, Trevor are you just not able to stay on Topic?
Jiminy cricket 😲
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@Very-Rusty saidCan you give me point by point update of what I've missed so far?
So much for a serious conversation concerning the 2026 Clan Rules, Trevor are you just not able to stay on Topic?
-VR
@The-only-Mr-T saidI suggest you read through it, if you are truly interested.
Can you give me point by point update of what I've missed so far?
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@Very-Rusty saidBut if you've been paying attention it should be easy.
I suggest you read through it, if you are truly interested.
-VR
@The-only-Mr-T said@Trevor,
But if you've been paying attention it should be easy.
If you were paying attention you would know. I am not going to start playing these games with you Trevor. I know what is going on and so do you, so quit the games, PLEASE!!!
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@Very-Rusty said1. D4
@Trevor,
If you were paying attention you would know. I am not going to start playing these games with you Trevor. I know what is going on and so do you, so quit the games, PLEASE!!!
-VR
Your move 😉
@The-only-Mr-T saidTrevor if you actually want a game then send me a challenge, stop being silly, PLEASE.
1. D4
Your move 😉
-VR
If we want to reinvigorate the clan system then it needs to be exciting, and the prize placed more within the potential reach of more teams.
The first thing that I'd dump is that "winner takes all" points system. You keep the point that you earn as you would in a chess match at club level.
This means that where teams that might see that they have won 51%+ of the points up for grabs, are no longer home and dry. They have to fight for every point. It also means that the losers have the chance to grab a token from the game, which actually might count for something.
If your clan has already won the match, it could afford to instruct the rest of the boards to throw games, which means that those player's ratings are understated for their next match. I'm not saying that throwing games is on plague proportion, but I am constantly amazed when I set up clan matches, at the number of players whose average rating is way above current rating. It's not all clans that I notice this with, but it's a familiar group that keep cropping up.
Finally, we need a pairings system which is more transparent. The current arrangement does try to do this, but misses the target. Currently, you can't play somebody with a rating difference of more than 200 points. So keep the premise, but re-apply it, so instead of 200 points of the rating, make it 50 or a 100 points of a year's average rating; it's more time consuming to fiddle average rating than rating, so should provide fairer more equitable matches, which are not foregone conclusions.
@medullah saidI agree with a lot of what you said, only you are talking about more changes. Would they benefit everyone? IF so I would be all for it.
If we want to reinvigorate the clan system then it needs to be exciting, and the prize placed more within the potential reach of more teams.
The first thing that I'd dump is that "winner takes all" points system. You keep the point that you earn as you would in a chess match at club level.
This means that where teams that might see that they have won 51%+ of the points ...[text shortened]... ng than rating, so should provide fairer more equitable matches, which are not foregone conclusions.
As far as closing matches we are playing ours out as you can see, I believe 3 were closed because they had went over 3 months and we had a few that had gone on for 5 or 6 months far too long for a Clan Challenge to last, means someone was holding them up so we couldn't start a new match.
I know it is dis-heartening to see a Clan with a Big lead, that I can't argue with for sure. We had to come back last year that we Won First from a 400 point deficit, it was an up hill battle for the last 6 months until we finally got the lead and some breathing room.
I believe any new Rules should be voted on by all clans, and started at first of the year if approved. I don't look at a one Person Clan as a Clan. Those are made so if it is just a Clan Leader Vote on something they can get a Vote in and may belong to a Clan or Clans that want something voted on, which doesn't seem fair to me.
Thanks for getting involved and making some good suggestions. What are you thoughts on one Person Clans?> We do have a several now. Remember Russ would have to approve any changes no matter how we voted and decided on.
It would be really nice if we had a Clan Challenge Rating only, separate from the others . That would solve much of the differences in the ratings that you see. Many of us including myself play in many tournaments and points are lost which drops the rating and not intentionally, I try to win every game, but of course that is impossible to do. My rating runs between 1200's and 1500's and I have beaten higher rated, sometimes I just get lucky. 19 years of playing you learn a little bit for sure.
Regards,
-VR
@medullah saidYes, I agree with this. Ratings/actual playing ability should be more closely paired.
Finally, we need a pairings system which is more transparent. The current arrangement does try to do this, but misses the target. Currently, you can't play somebody with a rating difference of more than 200 points. So keep the premise, but re-apply it, so instead of 200 points of the rating, make it 50 or a 100 points of a year's average rating; it's more time consuming to ...[text shortened]... ng than rating, so should provide fairer more equitable matches, which are not foregone conclusions.
@Very-Rusty
I don’t see a single person as a clan either, and I’m sure that they are little acorns either. Is it that big a deal to find say one or even two extra to join you to form a clan?
I’d like to see the one man clans merged if poss.
Also there should be time limit on games. Towards the end of the year and rolling into the new one many clans will lose matches early that they are pretty sure of losing anyway, then go slow on those that they are winning to give them a head start in the new season.
I’d prefer to see less gamesmanship and more chess.