@Very-Rusty saidWell said and eloquently put. It was warn out but the co captain is still up for grabs and combining the smaller clans to make bigger clans and great ones at that.
Michael,
Thank you for the back up, much appreciated at least by me. I is very nice to have the support and backing of one's Clan Leader. There are a group who want to have things THEIR WAY note the caps. 🙂 They are only a small group that want to dictate how things are done maybe 4-6 people I figure from what I've seen.
If you notice the same people want ...[text shortened]... t is my opinion on the matter.
This conversation concerning a cup was worn out pages ago.
-VR
There are really great clans out there now, Metallica, Pon Von Oranje, IVV, Yorkshire Clan has a great leader and a great clan, Medullah has an amazing clan as well, and there are more. If the leaders of these clans had more time they could all make a great run at the championship. Especially Pon Von Oranje, they have a great team top to bottom.
I think combining clans is a great idea and you get to pick the players you want and just that alone you can make a Superman Clan.
Rusty I back up everything you have said, I believe your ideas to be the best of the bunch and your critique of the posts are spot on.
They get upset if you disagree with them and then try to tarnish our names in the process.
You have stayed with the great ideas, ignored their insults, and came up with great ideas yourself. They really don't know how much you have contributed to this site and I am sure Russ would agree.
You, Fred, and Roma45 are the three that have always been in the thick of things especially back in 2016 when there were many changes going on.
I'll say it again, what have they contributed to this site and other then a few friends ONLY who would miss them????
You leave the site would notice fast and they would lose someone who has gone out of his way to help the site. You of course. 🙂
@The-only-Mr-T saidHave been communicating with a number of clan leaders. (Who don't use the forums).
There used to be a clan league, it died because there wasn't enough interest. It was a lot of games, but it was very successful for a long time. Unfortunately the site and the internet in general has changed since then.
No one wants to take away your clan championship every year, that'll stay the way it is until the site closes I believe. However, there can and shoul ...[text shortened]... something to increase interest. Do you have any ideas or are you just here to say no to everything?
Will now implement plan B.
@The-only-Mr-T saidTrevor,
There used to be a clan league, it died because there wasn't enough interest. It was a lot of games, but it was very successful for a long time. Unfortunately the site and the internet in general has changed since then.
No one wants to take away your clan championship every year, that'll stay the way it is until the site closes I believe. However, there can and shoul ...[text shortened]... something to increase interest. Do you have any ideas or are you just here to say no to everything?
I have been making suggestions. Amalgamating the smaller clans to make bigger clans, a hard challenge I know. Some of us don't understand how I person can be a Clan. I think this stems from the past when only the Clan Leaders could vote on something so people in different clans would make themselves a clan Leader just get a vote, anyway I am getting away from the subject.
I also suggested going into the Greeter section and playing people in there who are new to the site but not new to the game. I believe with my limited knowledge of the game that there could be some great pick ups in there. Become a Greeter I am sure it wouldn't take you long to pick them out, but then the trick would be to get them to Get Subscription, that may prove being a little more difficult I admit.
Also I have suggested Co-Clan Leaders which other have agreed to and Russ even agreed to if there was enough need for it. Presently we only have a few large Clans 15 or more people in them. A Co-Clan Leader could help to recruit people in other clans, which I personally don't agree with, but does work for some clans, also in the Greeters section as I said is another place to look. It would also help the Site by getting more Paying Subscribers. I know some would join, how many is of course UNKNOWN.
As you are aware we once had over 100 Clans, Ponderable probably knows the exact amount as he keeps a closer watch on these things than I do.
It is not I just say NO to things, I do try to come up with solutions to the problems. I think they are just ignored to be totally honest.
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@Michael-Martin you missed Celtic Druids, doing very well when they only have 10 members which suggests to me a great clan leader
@Wycombe-Al saidIndeed Al,
@Michael-Martin you missed Celtic Druids, doing very well when they only have 10 members which suggests to me a great clan leader
I noticed that some time ago, I think Michael just missed adding them in is all. He knows how well they are doing. Very well indeed for 10 members, no dispute about that one!!! 😉
Regards,
-VR
@Wycombe-Al saidThere are actually to many to name. I only named a few, the ones I play a lot. I think you as a leader is are wonderful and you have built a great team as well. You are almost always at the top. But yes I agree with you on Celtic Druids and I know the leader well.
@Michael-Martin you missed Celtic Druids, doing very well when they only have 10 members which suggests to me a great clan leader
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidI talk to almost every leader that I play against. And they don't go into the forums at all. They don't have time and some said it was stupid with a bunch of adults arguing. Almost a direct quote. So your answer is yes I do talk to leaders that have nothing to do with the forums.
Have been communicating with a number of clan leaders. (Who don't use the forums).
Will now implement plan B.
Have a Great day and don't forget to put in for one kitten!!!! I just crack myself up.
@Michael-Martin saidI for one can't disagree with them. Being one of the ring leaders myself, I know and have said arguing doesn't accomplish a thing, working together does. Something new we may want to try out. 😉
I talk to almost every leader that I play against. And they don't go into the forums at all. They don't have time and some said it was stupid with a bunch of adults arguing. Almost a direct quote. So your answer is yes I do talk to leaders that have nothing to do with the forums.
Have a Great day and don't forget to put in for one kitten!!!! I just crack myself up.
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@Wycombe-Al saidOr players that are better than their rating suggests 😂
@Michael-Martin you missed Celtic Druids, doing very well when they only have 10 members which suggests to me a great clan leader
Did notice them at #2, great performance. They're certainly tough to beat. I think Med came up with an interesting suggestion, divide the points depending on the clan challenge score. Not sure how I feel about it myself but can see the point. Two five person challenges, one finishes 9-1 and the other 5-4 (1 draw) but the same points being rewarded to the winners.
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@Michael-Martin said200 is quite a big gap in playing strength. Obviously people's rating fluctuate but the average yearly rating usually isn't far off.
I have no real issues with the clan system. They made quite a few changes in 2016 and it took some getting use to but it works out well. A Co Captain would be great. A separate rating just for clan players would be great.
I think 200 points between players in rating is perfect. Dropping it lower would just hurt the system. The 200 point difference has proven t ...[text shortened]... likely contenders for the championship. So combining the clans that we can would be a great start.
Of course playing styles come into it as well and I think that the difference for clan leaders. Getting to know who plays well against which styles.
There's no ideal system, people like yourself who want to win will always find a way. Metallica actually have a better average than you this year, just play a lot less games.
It's no secret that winning the clan championship is similar to hens hatching eggs in a factory... Quantity, quantity. That's not going to change.
Would you not like to see another type of tournament, like a cup? Something a bit different separate from the clan challenge? Like the tournaments page, there's a tournament for everyone regardless of playing strength. Why not have another clan competition to involve more clans? Again... Separate from the clan championship.
@The-only-Mr-T saidA good point, but then what sport has it where a team wins 5-4 and each team gets those points??? Just doesn't happen, it always winner takes all the points.
Or players that are better than their rating suggests 😂
Did notice them at #2, great performance. They're certainly tough to beat. I think Med came up with an interesting suggestion, divide the points depending on the clan challenge score. Not sure how I feel about it myself but can see the point. Two five person challenges, one finishes 9-1 and the other 5-4 (1 draw) but the same points being rewarded to the winners.
It would be quite different, why change it after a couple of decades? Medullah did have a good suggestion at least he is trying to make positive solutions which is great to see.
-VR
@The-only-Mr-T saidMetallica use to play a lot of games I should know I was with them for 13 years. Metallica has lost a lot of good players over the years, and I am not talking about myself, I am talking about other players. I sometimes wonder if the Clan leader puts as much into it as he once did, and my answer would be a resounding NO!!!
200 is quite a big gap in playing strength. Obviously people's rating fluctuate but the average yearly rating usually isn't far off.
Of course playing styles come into it as well and I think that the difference for clan leaders. Getting to know who plays well against which styles.
There's no ideal system, people like yourself who want to win will always find a w ...[text shortened]... t have another clan competition to involve more clans? Again... Separate from the clan championship.
Metallica will still be remembered as one of the best Clans To ever play on this site in my opinion.
A clan should NEVER be penalized for putting a lot of work and effort into the game. That in my opinion is a way to lose more Clans.
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@Very-Rusty saidSome individual sports have a league system where a win is a point. Obviously in team sports it's impossible. Believe some chess leagues do it that way.
A good point, but then what sport has it where a team wins 5-4 and each team gets those points??? Just doesn't happen, it always winner takes all the points.
It would be quite different, why change it after a couple of decades? Medullah did have a good suggestion at least he is trying to make positive solutions which is great to see.
-VR
I'm not sure if I agree with it, just an interesting thought.
@The-only-Mr-T saidI use to play in a chess league or a Club what ever you wish to call it and 1 point would go to the winner nothing to the loser.
Some individual sports have a league system where a win is a point. Obviously in team sports it's impossible. Believe some chess leagues do it that way.
I'm not sure if I agree with it, just an interesting thought.
Are the clans not a TEAM sport my friend? Of course it is an interesting idea, but at the same time your are penalizing the TEAM who does win to a degree.
We already have draws in Clan Challenges which I only see in European fooball (North Americans call Soccer). Now I am told they take free shots like in hockey where they do the 1 on the goalie until someone wins, but loser at least gets 1 point. That wouldn't work well with Chess, I don't believe.
-VR