Clans Recruiting for 2026 competitions

@shortcircuit said
Dave,

Regarding the amount of challenges any clan elected to play, wouldn't you assume that was their choice to abstain from the rigors that would be necessary to win the prize? I don't agree with your assertion that because they chose to play less that they should be afforded some special consideration. Afterall, this is supposed to be a competition.

Since you see ...[text shortened]... n I know several subscribers, myself included, will cease to be subscribers and will leave the site.

@shortcircuit,
I completely agree with every clan playing every other clan, but some clan leaders can't come to an agreement on any challenge either one presents, so it would make it difficult to enforce such a rule in my opinion.
I am not a Clan Leader here, but am a co-captain and make challenges on another Site and it is practically impossible to make a challenge with some of them. What we did is enforced a rule 50 to 100 point differential in the course of 90 days. We don't see as much sandbagging as there once was. So that is even a smaller differential in ratings than we have here which is 200 points. I am not saying we do the same, just that it seems to work there.
Of course people will always find a way to fix their ratings which I proved years ago could be done by getting my rating up into the 1800's by playing 600 games at a time and choosing which ones to resign and which ones not to. It is a known FACT by those of you who have played me over the years I am no where near an 1800 player. Never would I do that again, I was fortunate not to have timed out in any games. I don't know how Zorro The Fox does it being the most active player on the site with now having over 3 million moves in.

-VR

@venda said
My clan will win again this year. Isn't that great????? I can't wait. And then Metallica will win next year and my team will win the following year. Get the point?
Win what exactly?A points system where a clan who play the most games finish near the top of a list which means nothing.
The clan system will not improve unless we create a league where the team with the greatest p ...[text shortened]... ncourage smaller clans to participate.
Oh dear!I'm repeating myself and flogging a dead horse again

If you take what i said out of context and use a few lines why should Fred not take you at your word about how you want to destroy the clan system. I think that is fair.

If you bothered to read further you would know I did not mean it and was making a point and trying to irritate the guy who BLASTED ME when I had not said a word to him. In fact his post was the first in several months Dave. So I went back at him but did it in a way that is within the rules.

Thank God for Fred stepping in.

@shortcircuit said
Dave,

Regarding the amount of challenges any clan elected to play, wouldn't you assume that was their choice to abstain from the rigors that would be necessary to win the prize? I don't agree with your assertion that because they chose to play less that they should be afforded some special consideration. Afterall, this is supposed to be a competition.

Since you see ...[text shortened]... n I know several subscribers, myself included, will cease to be subscribers and will leave the site.

Thank God you joined in. Two pieces of writing that were brilliantly put. I wonder if anyone will listen to that eloquent piece of work.

You explained everything perfectly.

@shortcircuit said
Dave,

Regarding the amount of challenges any clan elected to play, wouldn't you assume that was their choice to abstain from the rigors that would be necessary to win the prize? I don't agree with your assertion that because they chose to play less that they should be afforded some special consideration. Afterall, this is supposed to be a competition.

Since you see ...[text shortened]... n I know several subscribers, myself included, will cease to be subscribers and will leave the site.

Afternoon Fred
Good to speak with you again.I enjoy our debates and trust I have not offended yourself,Bill or Michael with my comments and opinions.
Not many others,with the odd exception, show any interest in the clan system so I guess I am on a loser trying to introduce any changes regarding interpretation of success
That is not my intention anyway.
I may have said in the past,scrap the net points list but I can see now there is some merit in it,especially as some sort of reward for the hard working leaders.
I just think it might be interesting to see an extra list option based on percentage wins,but having proposed this for a number of years,it's obvious there's no support for it.
In all fairness,the leagues died some while ago so there's no future there either.
I think I'll leave it at that,and not for the first time,bow out of debates on the clan system.
All the best to you all.

Dave

@venda said
Afternoon Fred
Good to speak with you again.I enjoy our debates and trust I have not offended yourself,Bill or Michael with my comments and opinions.
Not many others,with the odd exception, show any interest in the clan system so I guess I am on a loser trying to introduce any changes regarding interpretation of success
That is not my intention anyway.
I may have said in th ...[text shortened]... time,bow out of debates on the clan system.
All the best to you all.

Dave

Hi Dave,

An idea I advanced a few years ago, but fell on deaf ears at the time, was the idea of having two separate divisions of the clan set up. It wouldn't be that difficult for Russ to alter and it would sort of maintain a similar structure. One section would be for the larger clans who want to knock heads and get after it against each other. The second division would be for those clans who were smaller in size, or not really wanting to compete as robustly as needed in the larger division. You could still have cross play if you wanted between the divisions, but it wouldn't be mandatory. But there would be a champion of each division based on some sort of points whether it be net or gross. To me this is a more effective way to attack the problem than dismantling the system entirely, like several have made it their goal to do.

As regards to my feelings, I don't ever take any of this stuff personally. There are some on this site who like to carry an axe and some who can effectively communicate. Then there is the faction that don't care either way. This is why I gave up on the forums as a a means of communicationg ideas because it became a pissing pot for a few folks who thought they were important. In the grand scheme of things, it just wasn't worth my time or the effort to bantar with them. There are many on this site I have talked to privately and they understand where I am coming from. You have never been one to be rude or carry an axe, so I willingly discuss with you.

@shortcircuit said
Hi Dave,

An idea I advanced a few years ago, but fell on deaf ears at the time, was the idea of having two separate divisions of the clan set up. It wouldn't be that difficult for Russ to alter and it would sort of maintain a similar structure. One section would be for the larger clans who want to knock heads and get after it against each other. The second division wo ...[text shortened]... am coming from. You have never been one to be rude or carry an axe, so I willingly discuss with you.

Love this idea - two separate divisions of the clan set up. Each leader can select which table they want to join. Brilliant and simple.

Cheers Fred - well done.

@shortcircuit said
Hi Dave,

An idea I advanced a few years ago, but fell on deaf ears at the time, was the idea of having two separate divisions of the clan set up. It wouldn't be that difficult for Russ to alter and it would sort of maintain a similar structure. One section would be for the larger clans who want to knock heads and get after it against each other. The second division wo ...[text shortened]... am coming from. You have never been one to be rude or carry an axe, so I willingly discuss with you.

Agreed. Well done Fred. I'm up for it.

@shortcircuit said
Hi Dave,

An idea I advanced a few years ago, but fell on deaf ears at the time, was the idea of having two separate divisions of the clan set up. It wouldn't be that difficult for Russ to alter and it would sort of maintain a similar structure. One section would be for the larger clans who want to knock heads and get after it against each other. The second division wo ...[text shortened]... am coming from. You have never been one to be rude or carry an axe, so I willingly discuss with you.

Sounds good to me Fred.
As you say, you won't get a lot of positive response in the forum.
I'm not convinced many people use it.
I gave up for a while when I got fed up with trawling through all the crap(Robbie and the guy who changed his name every five minutes (lemon drop or something)were two of them.
I suggest you propose your idea again in site idea's and see what Russ says.
I know he looks on there.

@venda said
Sounds good to me Fred.
As you say, you won't get a lot of positive response in the forum.
I'm not convinced many people use it.
I gave up for a while when I got fed up with trawling through all the crap(Robbie and the guy who changed his name every five minutes (lemon drop or something)were two of them.
I suggest you propose your idea again in site idea's and see what Russ says.
I know he looks on there.

Added to the Site Ideas Forum

@shortcircuit said
Hi Dave,

An idea I advanced a few years ago, but fell on deaf ears at the time, was the idea of having two separate divisions of the clan set up. It wouldn't be that difficult for Russ to alter and it would sort of maintain a similar structure. One section would be for the larger clans who want to knock heads and get after it against each other. The second division wo ...[text shortened]... am coming from. You have never been one to be rude or carry an axe, so I willingly discuss with you.

@shortcircuit,
Seeing the Epic lead that one clan has over everyone else, I now have changed my mind and AGREE to the two divisions, and how practical it would be to do so. I've always found change hard, but this is probably something required to ensure the Clan Challenges do not dwindle out completely.


-VR

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no you have not. As I said, get a sub.

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So how many Clans have you been in? How many names have you had? Finally how many subs have you really bought if any?

-VR

@shortcircuit said
Hi Dave,

An idea I advanced a few years ago, but fell on deaf ears at the time, was the idea of having two separate divisions of the clan set up. It wouldn't be that difficult for Russ to alter and it would sort of maintain a similar structure. One section would be for the larger clans who want to knock heads and get after it against each other. The second division wo ...[text shortened]... am coming from. You have never been one to be rude or carry an axe, so I willingly discuss with you.

Hi Fred,

If they go with your idea of two divisions but you can play in both as you suggested then that is the solution for everyone. The only issue I see is it looks like they are altering it a bit. I am in for your idea, but the strict definition of that idea.

Two divisions and any team can play in both.

If we had only the big teams as you put it, it would only be Al, Pion Von Oranje, Breaking Bad Clan, Popeye Clan if he chose to compete, Yorkshire Clan, And of course IVV. If I am missing any forgive me. But my point is it's only a bit more than a few in the big guns going at it so we would have to cross play in divisions to have more teams to play.

Wondering what your thoughts are and if I got this completely wrong which is usually the case. After all this time I finally got COVID. It's absolutely brutal.

All my best to you my friend.

Michael