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  1. 29 Apr '08 22:51
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju46sVoLrKE

    He would make Otto Klemperer turn in his grave!!
  2. Standard member neonpeon41
    The Conductor
    29 Apr '08 23:20
    Originally posted by scherzo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju46sVoLrKE

    He would make Otto Klemperer turn in his grave!!
    Thanks for sharing this! How funny! The audience was keeping better time than W.

    It reminds me of community bands and orchestras I play in where one of the fund-raisers is the "Golden Baton". A magic baton is raffled off to the highest bidder and the benefactor gets to conduct at a pops concert. It's always a march, because any shmo can wave their arms in front of a group and we've played enough marches they're always going to sound good.

    np
  3. Standard member eldragonfly
    leperchaun messiah
    29 Apr '08 23:26
    we are a long way from shock and awe.
  4. 30 Apr '08 00:59
    Originally posted by eldragonfly
    we are a long way from shock and awe.
    You can say that again. He was off beat half the time. Did you see him in the "trio" section? He looked like Beethoven was rumored to look whenever he conducted a quieter section of one of the latter's pieces.
  5. 02 May '08 23:29
    I wonder how it'll look to see Obama, Clinton, or McCain conduct an orchestra. Clinton will probably be shrieking half the time at bad sections, and McCain would be extremely stiff and formal. Obama would be calm, cool, collected, and relaxed. I think that voters should take into account how well the candidates can conduct a band.
  6. Subscriber AttilaTheHorn
    Erro Ergo Sum
    03 May '08 00:20
    I've seen better conductors on a passenger train!

    He's like the guy who taps his foot to music but his tapping is nowhere the beat. It's incredibly annoying.

    It was very foolish of him to conduct, because a conductor is a leader and he certainly did not look like a leader at all. Bush is supposed to be a leader and this silly stunt made him look like a fool, perhaps like the fool he is.
  7. Standard member DoctorScribbles
    BWA Soldier
    03 May '08 00:40 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by scherzo
    Obama would be calm, cool, collected, and relaxed.
    Yeah, brothaz got rhythm. Just one more reason why he gets the BWA endorsement.
  8. Donation kirksey957
    Outkast
    03 May '08 01:47
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Yeah, brothaz got rhythm. Just one more reason why he gets the BWA endorsement.
    Yo, I can tell you Obama is gonna just let each of members of the Marine band trade in a their clarinet for a gun and go hunt down Osama. Then he's gonna replace the band with Dr. Dre laying down some tracks. You know what I'm sayin?
  9. Donation kirksey957
    Outkast
    03 May '08 02:05
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Yeah, brothaz got rhythm. Just one more reason why he gets the BWA endorsement.
    Yo the brotha so smooth that I believe this here lesbian would give it up for him. What do you think?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4
  10. Standard member neonpeon41
    The Conductor
    03 May '08 03:08
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    Yo, I can tell you Obama is gonna just let each of members of the Marine band trade in a their clarinet for a gun and go hunt down Osama. Then he's gonna replace the band with Dr. Dre laying down some tracks. You know what I'm sayin?
    A problem with this is that "The President's Own" is the only military band that does not go to basic training. They report directly to duty. Every other military band member has to go through a nine-week basic training with every other enlisted soldier followed by another nine weeks of specialized training before they report to their band.

    I seriously considered a military band position at one time.

    np
  11. Subscriber AttilaTheHorn
    Erro Ergo Sum
    03 May '08 17:16
    "The conductor’s existence is, essentially, superfluous, and you have to attain a high degree of musical stupidity in order to find watching the beat, or the conductor's inane face for that matter, easier for the purpose of knowing when and how to play than simply listening to the music."
    –Hans Keller, 1919-1985

    "There are only six conductors in the world. All the rest are bums."
    –Isaac Stern, 1920-2001

    "Even though they’re not blind, they still insist upon using a white stick."
    –Nigel Kennedy

    "There is no profession (conducting) which an impostor could enter more easily."
    –Carl Flesch, 1873-1944

    "There is no more obvious expression of power than the performance of a conductor. Every detail of his public behaviour throws light on the nature and abuse of power. Someone who knew nothing about power could discover all its attributes, one after another, by careful observation of a conductor. Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini, learned about dictatorship in this way."
    –Elias Canetti

    "Every member of an orchestra knows that a conductor may be less well equipped for his work than the least of his players, but whereas the musicians quickly discover this, the society women and boards of directors, who directly or indirectly hire him, may never know."
    –Igor Stravinsky, 1882-1971
  12. 03 May '08 20:52
    Originally posted by AttilaTheHorn
    "The conductor’s existence is, essentially, superfluous, and you have to attain a high degree of musical stupidity in order to find watching the beat, or the conductor's inane face for that matter, easier for the purpose of knowing when and how to play than simply listening to the music."
    –Hans Keller, 1919-1985

    "There are only six conductors in t ...[text shortened]... who directly or indirectly hire him, may never know."
    –Igor Stravinsky, 1882-1971
    Nothing by Ozawa or Klemperer in here!
  13. Subscriber AttilaTheHorn
    Erro Ergo Sum
    03 May '08 21:04
    Originally posted by scherzo
    Nothing by Ozawa or Klemperer in here!
    Of course not: they're conductors!
  14. Standard member neonpeon41
    The Conductor
    04 May '08 12:52
    Originally posted by AttilaTheHorn
    "The conductor’s existence is, essentially, superfluous, and you have to attain a high degree of musical stupidity in order to find watching the beat, or the conductor's inane face for that matter, easier for the purpose of knowing when and how to play than simply listening to the music."
    –Hans Keller, 1919-1985
    Case in point. Go to www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/shows/nyphil/index.html and scroll down under the video box to the last selection "Final Encores". And this is a group that normally has Lorin Maazel.

    np