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  1. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    01 Aug '13 02:56 / 1 edit
    Scarbrough Fair...I didn't think anyone could do it any better than Simon and Garfunkle, but this young lady has the voice of angels!

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  2. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    01 Aug '13 07:57
    Originally posted by bill718
    Scarbrough Fair...I didn't think anyone could do it any better than Simon and Garfunkle, but this young lady has the voice of angels!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZJP_XLmrQ
    Lovely young woman, Hayley Westenra.

    Don't know if you know the story behind Simon and Garfunkle getting that song but Simon went over to England and heard it sung by Martin Carthy, a brilliant guitarist and singer.

    He proceeded to just steal Martin's version after buddying up to him, this was around 1966. Then back to the US and added the instrumentation we know now but gave not a hint of the actual source. So Martin got absolutely no credit even though it was his version and of course not a cent in royalties.

    Martin is STILL pee'd at that snub. Total snub of a great musician.
  3. 03 Aug '13 15:43
    Originally posted by bill718
    Scarbrough Fair...I didn't think anyone could do it any better than Simon and Garfunkle, but this young lady has the voice of angels!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZJP_XLmrQ
    Awesome! Thanks for posting the link!
  4. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    03 Aug '13 16:44
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Lovely young woman, Hayley Westenra.

    Don't know if you know the story behind Simon and Garfunkle getting that song but Simon went over to England and heard it sung by Martin Carthy, a brilliant guitarist and singer.

    He proceeded to just steal Martin's version after buddying up to him, this was around 1966. Then back to the US and added the instrumen ...[text shortened]... a cent in royalties.

    Martin is STILL pee'd at that snub. Total snub of a great musician.
    Sonhouse- No...I didn't know that Paul Simon did this. That makes me a bit angry. There is no excuse for stealing someone's ideas.
  5. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    03 Aug '13 21:52
    Originally posted by bill718
    Sonhouse- No...I didn't know that Paul Simon did this. That makes me a bit angry. There is no excuse for stealing someone's ideas.
    Yep, I was around when it came out, 1967 or 68. I was working on a radar site on a little sand bar off the Florida coast and some guys there played it for me. I was entranced. But didn't hear about Martin Carthy till ten years later when I was playing professionally in an Irish band, Southwind Irish Band.
  6. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    05 Aug '13 10:51 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by bill718
    Sonhouse- No...I didn't know that Paul Simon did this. That makes me a bit angry. There is no excuse for stealing someone's ideas.
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    This is Martin Carthy's original in 1966.

    Martin's daughter Eliza is in this cut with her mother, Norma Waterson:

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    Martin Carthy: Famous Flower of serving men:

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