05 Aug 08
Originally posted by AttilaTheHornHa, I am glad I am not the only one who thought scherzo was talking about the 5th Symphony!
I've played all the Sibelius symphonies. All of them are great.
Software-wise, I use Lilypond. I regularly get frustrated with it when I need to do something I haven't done before or that I can't remember how to do, but it works well enough for simple stuff (I mostly need it to write down songs without accompaniment), and the result usually looks quite nice.
05 Aug 08
Originally posted by NordlysHa, I am glad I am not the only one who thought scherzo was talking about the 5th Symphony!
Ha, I am glad I am not the only one who thought scherzo was talking about the 5th Symphony!
Software-wise, I use Lilypond. I regularly get frustrated with it when I need to do something I haven't done before or that I can't remember how to do, but it works well enough for simple stuff (I mostly need it to write down songs without accompaniment), and the result usually looks quite nice.
Sorry about that. 😉
Software-wise, I use Lilypond. I regularly get frustrated with it when I need to do something I haven't done before or that I can't remember how to do, but it works well enough for simple stuff (I mostly need it to write down songs without accompaniment), and the result usually looks quite nice.
Never even heard of that. Use Sibelius.
05 Aug 08
>Yes, I really did think the thread was about the Sibelius 5th Symphony!
>So if I may divert the subject to that for a moment, a few years ago our orchestra devoted a whole season to playing somebody's 5th symphony on each program. We played the 5th symphonies of Beethoven, Schubert, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky, Bruckner, Mahler, Sibelius, Shostakovich, Prokofiev, and even Haydn. Somehow, we left out Mozart.
>As 1st horn, I was in 7th heaven, but not 5th heaven!
06 Aug 08
Originally posted by scherzoDoes Sibelius have the ability to take a midi input and print a score from it, like from a synth keyboard?
Is awesome! Just got it today! Already have several new scores going just for the heck of it.
Anyone else have it?
I used something, I forget which one, maybe Project 5, not sure now, (Cakewalk) and it printed out what I played alright but it analyzed the timing down to the millisecond so if you were slighly off timingwise the result looked awful, a bunch of tied 8th notes strung out nothing like what you would actually write. I wondered if there was something with a bit more intelligence that recognized timing intent and not just take the millisecond by millisecond note timing as written in stone.
06 Aug 08
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Originally posted by sonhouseAll of the programs will do that if you don't set the quantization settings properly. You can take
Does Sibelius have the ability to take a midi input and print a score from it, like from a synth keyboard?
I used something, I forget which one, maybe Project 5, not sure now, (Cakewalk) and it printed out what I played alright but it analyzed the timing down to the millisecond so if you were slighly off timingwise the result looked awful, a bunch of tied ...[text shortened]... timing intent and not just take the millisecond by millisecond note timing as written in stone.
any MIDI and 'round it to the nearest semidemiquaver' (e.g.) to clean up the score in any of
the mainstream engraving programs (Finale, Sibelius, &c).
Keep in mind that MIDI captures use such quantizations as part of their protocol, although the
fine tuning of it is on the order of milliseconds. However, if you are a really high-level performer,
such alterations are discernible to the ear. I can't tell, but a few of my performing friends can
tell the difference between a MIDI capture of their playing and a true playback.
The same goes for MIDI's capture of key velocity (dynamics).
Nemesio
09 Aug 08
Originally posted by NemesioCall me old fashion, but I still write everything by hand. Does anybody out there remember when you had to hand in manuscript with no mistakes using the chisel point pens that had manuel ink loading?
All of the programs will do that if you don't set the quantization settings properly. You can take
any MIDI and 'round it to the nearest semidemiquaver' (e.g.) to clean up the score in any of
the mainstream engraving programs (Finale, Sibelius, &c).
Keep in mind that MIDI captures use such quantizations as part of their protocol, although the
fine tu ...[text shortened]... a true playback.
The same goes for MIDI's capture of key velocity (dynamics).
Nemesio
I bet half the music majors studying today can't write what they hear. Unless aided by Sibelius or the like.
I did just get Sibelius 5 at an education discount. I want to document my teaching examples more orderly. I have over 500 hand written arrangements in my band book- 4 horns and full rhythm, I'd love to transfer to computer program, but the best I can do there is keep PDF files from scans.
I'm also writing new arrangements for a school band program I just started last year.
09 Aug 08
Originally posted by gregsflatGood for you! Sibelius is the only way to write music. Unless you want people to not be able to read your notation (as happens with me quite often; I don't know about you).
Call me old fashion, but I still write everything by hand. Does anybody out there remember when you had to hand in manuscript with no mistakes using the chisel point pens that had manuel ink loading?
I bet half the music majors studying today can't write what they hear. Unless aided by Sibelius or the like.
I did just get Sibelius 5 at an education d ...[text shortened]... scans.
I'm also writing new arrangements for a school band program I just started last year.
10 Aug 08
Originally posted by AttilaTheHornSibelius's third symphony was what I played for my first pro gig in college. I was assistant principal and the orchestra was playing all the Sibelius symphonies over three seasons.
>Yes, I really did think the thread was about the Sibelius 5th Symphony!
>So if I may divert the subject to that for a moment, a few years ago our orchestra devoted a whole season to playing somebody's 5th symphony on each program. We played the 5th symphonies of Beethoven, Schubert, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky, Bruckner, Mahler, Sibelius, Shostakovich, ...[text shortened]... ven Haydn. Somehow, we left out Mozart.
>As 1st horn, I was in 7th heaven, but not 5th heaven!
np
10 Aug 08
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Originally posted by gregsflatDictation is a separate skill from engraving, and I don't know why Sibelius would make dictation
I bet half the music majors studying today can't write what they hear. Unless aided by Sibelius or the like.
any easier. The only advantage that I could possible think of would be the use of the playback
function, but it's my guess that someone so unskilled as to need playback to know if their
dictation was right or wrong would probably be at a loss to correct something that didn't
match up when they heard it. I would think it would be easier to do it by hand simply because
you can sketch the shape of lines faster with a pencil than with a mouse.
I would imagine that people only use music notation programs because their handwriting is
atrocious, it's easy to correct mistakes, or so they can mass produce scores (like for a choir).
Frankly, having looked at several hundred manuscripts from as early as the 10th century, I
wish Sibelius had been available to the Italian monks back then!
Nemesio
11 Aug 08
Originally posted by NemesioI would imagine that people only use music notation programs because their handwriting is atrocious ...
Dictation is a separate skill from engraving, and I don't know why Sibelius would make dictation
any easier. The only advantage that I could possible think of would be the use of the playback
function, but it's my guess that someone so unskilled as to need playback to know if their
dictation was right or wrong would probably be at a loss to correct some ...[text shortened]... 10th century, I
wish Sibelius had been available to the Italian monks back then!
Nemesio
That's me! 😀
It also helps write actual scores. Otherwise you have to purchase just the right amount of staff paper with just the right number of staves, and keep track of which staff is which.