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Originally posted by badmoonI assume you mean "Solo in Mondsee"?
Wayne Shorter - Footprints Live
Paul Bley - Conversations in Mondesi..I still don't get it but I keep trying. Sounds like pointless meandering. Is Paul Bley one of the most overrated "geniouses" in jazz?
The funny thing is that I've long thought of Bley as one of the most underappreciated. For example, some years ago a co-worker of mine told me he was a huge Jarrett fan, so I put on Bley's "The Floater Syndrome" from 1962. He started laughing and said, "He sounds just like Keith Jarrett". I told him, "Actually Jarrett sounds like Bley" and explained to him that Bley influenced Jarrett and not the other way around. He walked away seemingly puzzled yet unconvinced that that could be true. Sacred cows die hard.
Three albums with much in common. Besides having every possible duo combination of Tilbury/Prevost/Parker as well as the same label, studio and engineer; the first two were recorded on the same day with the third a year earlier.
Such "The Issue at Hand"
Yoshikazu Iwamoto
John Tilbury
Eddie Prevost
John Tilbury "Two Chapters and an Epilogue"
Evan Parker
Evan Parker "Most Materiall"
Eddie Prevost
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThe only comparison with Jarret that I can think of is the Koln concert which, although it garnered him great accalim, is amongst his weaker efforts. Sounded like he was having sex with his keyboard.
I assume you mean "Solo in Mondsee"?
The funny thing is that I've long thought of Bley as one of the most underappreciated. For example, some years ago a co-worker of mine told me he was a huge Jarrett fan, so I put on Bley's "The Floater Syndrome" from 1962. He started laughing and said, "He sounds just like Keith Jarrett". I told him, "Actually Jarre ...[text shortened]... away seemingly puzzled yet unconvinced that that could be true. Sacred cows die hard.
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Originally posted by badmoonWell, that's NOT a picture I want to have in my head.
The only comparison with Jarret that I can think of is the Koln concert which, although it garnered him great accalim, is amongst his weaker efforts. Sounded like he was having sex with his keyboard.
I'm guessing you've never heard the tracks my co-worker listened to which contains Bley's '62 and '63 sessions on Savoy including "Footloose".
Here' an excerpt from what Ethan Iverson had to say about "Footloose":
"Because it was the first album with Bley at full power, it’s possible that Footloose! is Bley’s most influential recording. It certainly made a big impression on certain pianists the time: Most famously, Keith Jarrett has never denied his debt to Bley and Footloose! in particular."
How much Bley have you heard?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOutside of the mess that I brought up, I've heard some of the 70's ECM material and a couple others.
Well, that's NOT a picture I want to have in my head.
I'm guessing you've never heard the tracks my co-worker listened to which contains Bley's '62 and '63 sessions on Savoy including "Footloose".
Here' an excerpt from what Ethan Iverson had to say about "Footloose":
"Because it was the first album with Bley at full power, it’s possible that Footl ...[text shortened]... ed his debt to Bley and Footloose! in particular."
How much Bley have you heard?
So this is the first since the 70's.
I can see a comparison to the Koln Concert by Jarrett, but I consider that one of Jarrett's weakest efforts notwithstanding the accalim it received. I sounded like sex on the keyboard.
Originally posted by badmoonNot really sure what you find objectionable about "Mondsee". I took another listen and there's a lot of really choice stuff going on there.
Outside of the mess that I brought up, I've heard some of the 70's ECM material and a couple others.
So this is the first since the 70's.
I can see a comparison to the Koln Concert by Jarrett, but I consider that one of Jarrett's weakest efforts notwithstanding the accalim it received. I sounded like sex on the keyboard.
Maybe you need to hear Bley's approach to standards to be able to get where he's coming from. Seems like you should also be able to hear his influence on Jarrett. Check out the album "Bebop" on Steeplechase.
"Interpretations of Monk"
A four disc set covering two concerts spanning four sets recorded on November 1, 1981. What a great line-up.
Don Cherry
Steve Lacy
Charlie Rouse
Roswell Rudd
Richard Davis
With a different pianist for each set:
Muhal Richard Abrams
Barry Harris
Anthony Davis
Mal Waldron
With two drummers playing two sets each:
Ed Blackwell
Ben Riley