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  1. 29 Apr '15 04:15
    Why are there really no Asian actors who are considered superstars?
  2. 29 Apr '15 20:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why are there really no Asian actors who are considered superstars?
    I guess Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee would be considered superstars, but there aren't many, it's true. The obvious answer is that cinema historically grew up mainly in Western Europe and the USA, and that people are interested in learning about themselves, so most stories are about Europeans and Americans, almost always from their point of view. There's nothing inherently racist about this as I think some often try to claim, although I'm not really able to comment on whether or not racism is a problem in Western cinema — I think you need to know an awful lot about film and film culture before you can credibly make that sort of claim, and even then there's wide scope for counter-arguments and no definite answer.

    Also, India grew its own film industry, Bollywood, where it expressed aspects of its distinctive culture, so that's 1bn or so people who would maybe only see, or at least vastly prefer, Bollywood films right off the bat. Other Asian nations besides India, Japan and China and a couple of others probably don't have a huge market yet for films, although I'm sure things will even out eventually. (I'm saying this without knowing very much detail about Asia at all and never having been anywhere on that vast and beautiful continent, so please don't jump on me for misrepresenting Asians). But the very phenomenon of Bollywood proves that there are Asian superstars, just not known to Western audiences. I'm sure there are Chinese film superstars too, in China.

    Perhaps too, there's a sort of artistic inertia created by the fact that Hollywood dynasties have arisen whose focus is mainly on their 'home culture', and their money and influence talks, to put it bluntly. And maybe (I'm really speculating now) cinema is quite a radical departure artistically from traditional culture in some Asian countries, so needs extra time to gain acceptance.

    We mustn't forget the language barrier, although this is reduced a lot now. But I think for an Asian to learn a Western language or vice versa tends to be much harder than for, say, an Englishman to learn French or a Chinese to learn Japanese. So for that reason, I suppose many Asian people would historically find it hard not only to make an impression on western cinemagoers as actors or actresses, but also to gain influence in other areas of the industry. Many still would today, I'd wager.

    I heard that the new "must-see" blockbuster, Fast & Furious 7, may be unique in having a cast that's spectacularly representative people from different nations, colours and creeds, and that's one reason for it's huge success among adolescents. And good for them if it is indeed true. If it's anything like the few scenes of one of the earlier films I saw, it's not successful for the quality of the acting or the dialogue. SFX, of course, is another matter...
  3. 30 Apr '15 12:35 / 1 edit
    I don't think the problem is racism either. I just think that there are no Asian superstars cause they all look alike. 😛

    Really, who cares if Asians are discriminated against? It's not like they have organizations who give a damn about them like the NAACP.
  4. 03 May '15 17:14
    So if you want to be a successful Asian actor, you better learn martial arts.

    It would be like telling Black that if they wanted to be a successful actor, then need to learn to play sports.
  5. 04 May '15 11:00
    There are, I believe, lots of Asian "superstars". Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist.
  6. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Just another day
    08 May '15 04:38
    Lucy Liu
  7. 08 May '15 14:58
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    There are, I believe, lots of Asian "superstars". Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist.
    You believe?

    What is this, the spirituality forums? 🙄
  8. 08 May '15 14:59
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Lucy Liu
    Who?

    BTW, porn does not count.
  9. 08 May '15 15:11
    Originally posted by whodey
    You believe?

    What is this, the spirituality forums? 🙄
    Oh, you and your witty retorts. That amazing cleverness.
  10. 09 May '15 16:53
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why are there really no Asian actors who are considered superstars?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar:_The_Last_Airbender

    Avatar: The Last Airbender is set in an Asiatic-like world in which some people are able to manipulate the classical elements by use of psychokinetic variants of Chinese martial arts, known as "bending".

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0938283/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
    count how many asian actors are in the credits.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_%28TV_series%29
    bruce lee struggled to make a kung fu tv show. when the show was made, very white david carradine played a kung fu master, instead of freakin bruce lee.
  11. 10 May '15 17:28
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why are there really no Asian actors who are considered superstars?
    Krishna Pandit Bhanji? Just because you don't think of him as Asian...
  12. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Just another day
    13 May '15 04:45
    Pat Morita
    Jet Li
    George Takei
    Keanu Reeves
  13. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    15 May '15 14:10
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Pat Morita
    Jet Li
    George Takei
    Keanu Reeves
    Keanu Reeves was born in Lebanon, sure, but he is Canadian.
  14. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    24 May '15 20:16 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Who?

    BTW, porn does not count.
    http://en.mediamass.net/people/lucy-liu/highest-paid.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Liu

    You won't find her in a porn film. She is worth 16 million and counting now that she is a regular on Elementary.
  15. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Just another day
    28 May '15 04:35
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Keanu Reeves was born in Lebanon, sure, but he is Canadian.
    His Dad's Chinese