@Cliff-Mashburn saidSounds like BS. Non-citizens are allowed to be on Medicaid if they are lawfully present (https://www.shiphelp.org/about-medicare/blog/medicare-and-immigration-status) and your article concedes that "'The vast majority of the growth was related to asylum programs and people who came in on NTAs (Notices to Appear),". The article claims, without any support, that these non-citizens are mostly "'Illegal immigrants" but concedes "the data is still being analyzed".
Tell us again how DOGE hasn't uncovered any fraud or waste:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/doge-s-border-expert-reveals-terrifying-number-of-illegals-on-medicaid/ar-AA1Cn3cP
So it looks like another is a long list of claims made by DOGE that have little support in reality.
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@no1marauder saidLOL..... being allowed in on a "Notice to Appear" means they were illegals that got stopped and let loose in the country because Biden Admin wanted to claim they weren't illegal.
Sounds like BS. Non-citizens are allowed to be on Medicaid if they are lawfully present (https://www.shiphelp.org/about-medicare/blog/medicare-and-immigration-status) and your article concedes that "'The vast majority of the growth was related to asylum programs and people who came in on NTAs (Notices to Appear),". The article claims, without any support, that these non-c ...[text shortened]...
So it looks like another is a long list of claims made by DOGE that have little support in reality.
No matter what DOGE finds, you'll just gainsay it and claim it isn't so.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidBecause DOGE hasn’t found any fraud yet. 😆
LOL..... being allowed in on a "Notice to Appear" means they were illegals that got stopped and let loose in the country because Biden Admin wanted to claim they weren't illegal.
No matter what DOGE finds, you'll just gainsay it and claim it isn't so.
Just lots and lots of people obeying laws DOGE disagrees with. 😆
@spruce112358 saidThe courts have found fraud…in Trump’s business records.
Because DOGE hasn’t found any fraud yet. 😆
Just lots and lots of people obeying laws DOGE disagrees with. 😆
@Cliff-Mashburn said
Tell us again how DOGE hasn't uncovered any fraud or waste:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/doge-s-border-expert-reveals-terrifying-number-of-illegals-on-medicaid/ar-AA1Cn3cP
Remember, you said the middle class is doing perfectly fine:
And yet the middle class isn't suffering at all, nobody on social security has had any problems, and all the hoopla is made-up media garbage.
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/1000-protests-in-america-today.202440/page-4
No one is hurting, you say. So what's your problem, even if we were to concede the "point" in your OP, which no one should without galaxy-sized qualifications?
A "terrifying number of illegals on Medicaid," your link says. What Chicken Little hysteria. I think any sane person will recognize what the real "made-up media garbage" is here.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidIf true then addresses in the system they'd be easily deported by now.
Tell us again how DOGE hasn't uncovered any fraud or waste:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/doge-s-border-expert-reveals-terrifying-number-of-illegals-on-medicaid/ar-AA1Cn3cP
Why are trump ice deporting fewer immigrants compared to xiden then?
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@wildgrass saidBecause the CNN article that makes that claim is comparing an entire year under Biden versus 2 months under Trump. Also, you don't "easily" find and deport over a million people overnight, they just now discovered them.
If true then addresses in the system they'd be easily deported by now.
Why are trump ice deporting fewer immigrants compared to xiden then?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2025/04/06/ice-detainees-in-arizona/82799415007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p
@Cliff-Mashburn saidYeah they "found," thousands of 150 year old people collecting social security months ago. No one was arrested. Why?
Because the CNN article that makes that claim is comparing an entire year under Biden versus 2 months under Trump. Also, you don't "easily" find and deport over a million people overnight, they just now discovered them.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2025/04/06/ice-detainees-in-arizona/82799415007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p
Why are they deporting fewer now than they were last year?
You believe everything doge says but they've been caught lying a bunch of times.
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@wildgrass saidThat claim isn't true.
Why are they deporting fewer now than they were last year?
Deportations are massively up since Trump took office.
Read the article and stop swallowing CNN lies.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidUr article says nothing about deportations but CBP stats on their website show a decrease in deportations in 2025 compared to last year same time.
That claim isn't true.
Deportations are massively up since Trump took office.
Read the article and stop swallowing CNN lies.
Regarding DOGE it looks like they just don't know what they're looking at, just like previous false claims about the millions of dead people collecting social security. They don't understand how to read the data.
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@wildgrass saidSince over 200,000 people a month were being let in by Biden, I suppose that makes sense.
Ur article says nothing about deportations but CBP stats on their website show a decrease in deportations in 2025 compared to last year same time.
Regarding DOGE it looks like they just don't know what they're looking at, just like previous false claims about the millions of dead people collecting social security. They don't understand how to read the data.
Now that the border has been sealed, there's just the people in the country we have to search for and scrummage up.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidMakes sense? but the number of illegals according to you in this country is 20 million, right? Here you say 1.3 million where we know their home addresses.
Since over 200,000 people a month were being let in by Biden, I suppose that makes sense.
Now that the border has been sealed, there's just the people in the country we have to search for and scrummage up.
But they only deport 11,000 a month, a decrease in rate compared to Biden? Seems way too slow to make any meaningful difference.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidWhat report shows that?
That claim isn't true.
Deportations are massively up since Trump took office.
Read the article and stop swallowing CNN lies.
Customs and border protection posts their numbers publicly. Deportations are down compared to last year.