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They would have been better off not going to Glastonbury and voting in the referendum instead.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterThere's more than one possible way to implement democracy; as it happens, the version implemented in the U.K. is one of the less effective ones.
Ah democracy, don’t you just love it...but only when it goes your way, right?
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraVery true sir, but 100,000 weekend warriors jacking off in a get together in the British sunshine isn’t one of them. I despair of the real left in this country; most of these people wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t a weekend and the sun was out! Where is the true grit that got the NHS established I wonder, not amongst this bunch of fairweather lightweights.
There's more than one possible way to implement democracy; as it happens, the version implemented in the U.K. is one of the less effective ones.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI think that in an effective democracy, everyone gets an equal say, as opposed to listening to those who shout loudest. While people should obviously have the right to protest, they are typically the result of the people not feeling their voice heard through ordinary channels. You will have to go back quite a while to find the last large-scale protest sparked by broad dissent among the populace in the Nordic democracies.
Very true sir, but 100,000 weekend warriors jacking off in a get together in the British sunshine isn’t one of them. I despair of the real left in this country; most of these people wouldn’t even be there if it wasn’t a weekend and the sun was out! Where is the true grit that got the NHS established I wonder, not amongst this bunch of fairweather light ...[text shortened]... n for change there would be at least 500,000 and a serious challenge to Corbyn. But there isn’t.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraI agree that everyone gets an equal say which is why I mock the 250,000 “Jesfesters” who didn’t bother to vote but chose instead to make their equal say as quiet as possible at glastonbury two years ago; preferring instead the immediacy of pop culture and a blow-job to actually voting. The scratchy sound of a pen on a ballot paper is the loudest sound in the world, isn’t it.
I think that in an effective democracy, everyone gets an equal say, as opposed to listening to those who shout loudest. While people should obviously have the right to protest, they are typically the result of the people not feeling their voice heard through ordinary channels. You will have to go back quite a while to find the last large-scale protest sparked by broad dissent among the populace in the Nordic democracies.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorra"Equal say,...people not feeling their voice heard through ordinary channels"?
I think that in an effective democracy, everyone gets an equal say, as opposed to listening to those who shout loudest. While people should obviously have the right to protest, they are typically the result of the people not feeling their voice heard through ordinary channels. You will have to go back quite a while to find the last large-scale protest sparked by broad dissent among the populace in the Nordic democracies.
Originally posted by @divegeesterSooooo, this thread is just a self-congratulatory jerk fest?
What would impress me would be a “movement”; hundreds of thousands giving up their barbeques and traveling to London en-mass. An army of protestation from the 60,000,000 of the uk demanding justice. But no, we have is just 100,000 (allegedly) all oiled up in their factor 30 and I suspect mostly from the privileged segment of the London boroughs.
Sad.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraWe can't leave the European Union and remain at the same time, so how can everyone be represented? Your position is nonsense. We had a referendum; leave won and remain lost. Majority rules.
I think that in an effective democracy, everyone gets an equal say, as opposed to listening to those who shout loudest. While people should obviously have the right to protest, they are typically the result of the people not feeling their voice heard through ordinary channels. You will have to go back quite a while to find the last large-scale protest sparked by broad dissent among the populace in the Nordic democracies.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraYes that's why we were the ones who adopted fascism, communism, absolute monarchy and theocracy and Europe had to save us from destroying ourselves. Sounds right, hey?
There's more than one possible way to implement democracy; as it happens, the version implemented in the U.K. is one of the less effective ones.