Debates
13 Oct 05
13 Oct 05
How long should we hold "terror" suspects?
I feel that two weeks without charge is long enough already.
I don't trust this uk govt or our police enough for this to work correctly. If the police don't have the evidence than they cant arrest a suspect.
If I feel like that, how do you think young muslim males feel about it?
13 Oct 05
Originally posted by invigorateWhat's English law state?
How long should we hold "terror" suspects?
I feel that two weeks without charge is long enough already.
I don't trust this uk govt or our police enough for this to work correctly. If the police don't have the evidence than they cant arrest a suspect.
If I feel like that, how do you think young muslim males feel about it?
13 Oct 05
Originally posted by invigorateI am Muslim
How long should we hold "terror" suspects?
I feel that two weeks without charge is long enough already.
I don't trust this uk govt or our police enough for this to work correctly. If the police don't have the evidence than they cant arrest a suspect.
If I feel like that, how do you think young muslim males feel about it?
I am British
I am proud to be both.
If I was arrested (not quiet sure why I still haven't been) then I expect to
be treated with respect like any human being.
If the police arrest a man on suspicion that he might kill a man, for a
reason or other, then they release him after 24hrs, if not enough
evidence were found . He could be classified as a "terror" suspect.
There are a lot of gaps in the way this government runs things, they
make up laws that suit them without being consistent.
14 Oct 05
Originally posted by Peachylike the respect they showed for that guy in the subway, shot what was
I am Muslim
I am British
I am proud to be both.
If I was arrested (not quiet sure why I still haven't been) then I expect to
be treated with respect like any human being.
If the police arrest a man on suspicion that he might kill a man, for a
reason or other, then they release him after 24hrs, if not enough
evidence were found . He could be cla ...[text shortened]... he way this government runs things, they
make up laws that suit them without being consistent.
it 17 times just for running away?
15 Oct 05
Originally posted by shavixmirIt can take longer than 24 hrs just to begin forensic examinations; should they be released to dissappear never to be seen again? Don't say "tag" them...this has been shown not to work by the youth who was taking it off before going out etc etc.
I feel that 24 hours is long enough.
If they can't charge you, why the hell are they holding you in the first place?
I agree 12 weeks is too long but in some of these extreme cases they should be allowed longer than 2 weeks........I always thought they could apply to a judge/magistrate for an extension of holding time if they had a good enough reason.
24 hours is one extreme.
Guantanamo bay is another.
15 Oct 05
Originally posted by coiIt is all about trust:
I see no problem with 12 weeks. A small price to pay from any point of view.
But why no phone tap evidence?
After Wolfgang at the labour conference being arrested under anti-terror laws. Trusting the police or state on these issues is difficult.
09 Nov 05
Poor Tony - only got 28 days instead of 90.
I wonder how Gordon Brown is feeling. Flown back from Israel to vote. Then votes for a lost cause.
Yet he must be thinking that this shows Tony Blair to be lame duck. He must be secretly rubbing his hands with glee on his return to the middle east.
09 Nov 05
Originally posted by coiSuppose your point of view was from the wrong side of those jail cell bars? Would you consider 12 weeks a small price to pay?
I see no problem with 12 weeks. A small price to pay from any point of view.
But why no phone tap evidence?
That's 12 weeks with no income because you've lost your job.
12 weeks that you'll fall WAAAY behind on your payments to everyone you owe money to because again, no job.
12 weeks of jailhouse food.
12 weeks of watching your backside and not dropping the soap.
12 weeks of no nookie from the little lady in your life.
12 weeks of people you know thinking you're a terrorist.
12 weeks of your name in the newspaper where you're listed as a terrorist suspect.
12 long weeks for the people that love you. They're missing you and fearing for your well being.
12 weeks without all of the comforts of home.
And I'm tired of typing....
So don't say 12 weeks is a small price to pay unless you tell me you're gonna sit in a cell yourself for 12 weeks with a "terrorist suspect" label around your neck. I promise you'll come out with a whole new perspective.
09 Nov 05
Originally posted by wibwith the right checks, safeguards and supervision it would be a small price to pay for a few individuals. If you are innocent then compensation should be given. Some of your points are a bit melodramatic considering we are talking about british prisons. Why would they have no visitors for instance.
Suppose your point of view was from the wrong side of those jail cell bars? Would you consider 12 weeks a small price to pay?
That's 12 weeks with no income because you've lost your job.
12 weeks that you'll fall WAAAY behind on your payments to everyone you owe money to because again, no job.
12 weeks of jailhouse food.
12 weeks of watching you ...[text shortened]... rist suspect" label around your neck. I promise you'll come out with a whole new perspective.
My point still remains re phone tap evidence.
That said i feel the 28 days is a good compromise.
That said Tony Blair getting his ass kicked was heaven.