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14 million dead by 2030

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@Arkturos said
It's up to the messenger to make the point clear.
People who only hear what they want to hear bastardize the point.


@AverageJoe1 said
Suzanne, would you find it reasonable for you to demand atheists use their tax money to support all of the people around them?
Of course.

You cannot have a 'society' of lone wolves. No one person can pay for the entire supply chain necessary to get your breakfast cereal to your store in time for breakfast.

If you want a 'society' it must be a group effort.


@Suzianne

Can you name one person who will die because the USA isn't paying for something in another country?

Or is this another grandiose garbage nothing burger CNN type of thread?

Also, why don't you go help?


@Arkturos said
Why shouldn't local governments support their own people?
And no one else?

Especially rich peoples on a planet full of need?

This is not 'America First'. It's 'America Only'.

The US government is not a 'local' government. Your point is nonsense.


@chessgirlzzz said
@Suzianne

Can you name one person who will die because the USA isn't paying for something in another country?

Or is this another grandiose garbage nothing burger CNN type of thread?

Also, why don't you go help?
I cannot list the names of 14 million people.

"Also, why don't you go help?"

You don't know what I'm doing.

I stopped talking about 'what I do' because people like you take every opportunity to shut that down. People started bitching that I was trying to "show them up". They fail with that idea because it was never about them.


People who refuse to learn to play music are always the first to get pissed when others "play their own horn". Go figure.


I really didn't realize there were SO many reading this thread who actually seem offended that I remind them of what Jesus actually said, instead of the pablum that people like Charlie Kirk said.


America used to be better than this. Thanks, Donald.


@Suzianne

So the 14 million is a made up number, not based on anything.

Also, you're doing nothing to help other than yelling about a what if scenario.

Virtue signaling is so 2020 🙄


@Arkturos said
Or what is Suzianne personally doing about this? At this stage of the game she should know how to sweet-talk chatGPT into turning a twenty-dollar investment into the billions necessary to support nations-worth of lesser humans as if they are her dear and well-cared-for pets.

There's almost a movie script in this!
This is a serious issue.

Please don't pollute it with your ridiculous "I'll show her" -isms.


@Suzianne said
Why do you support America, who has historically been the source of most humanitarian aid, abandoning these people and many more in Africa?

It's pure evil.

Fourth Reich material.
So if Mother Teresa stopped helping people expecting others to contribute she would be pure evil? Fourth Reich material?

Maybe if you thought she was a republican.


@chessgirlzzz said
@Suzianne

So the 14 million is a made up number, not based on anything.

Also, you're doing nothing to help other than yelling about a what if scenario.

Virtue signaling is so 2020 🙄
No, the '14 million' is not a 'made-up' number. I refer you to the OP's article.


I've been accused of this "virtue signalling" before (see my previous answer). One pattern that remains in this forum is people who learn one new term and start overusing it everywhere to sound cool.

The concept of virtue signalling is most often used by those on the political right to denigrate the behavior of those on the political left. It is a method to quiet those who call out the bad behavior of others, and the Lord knows the right has more bad behavior than anybody. They just don't like being exposed.


Those who scream, "Oh yeah? What are YOU doing about it?" are shut down once they get schooled on the issue, and then (you could see this coming) just want that person to shut up because then they look bad, and so start calling 'virtue signalling'.

As usual, you can tell the most guilty are those who scream the most when people call them out.


Not 'what-if'. People are dying right now. More people will die by 2030 unless America tells those who hold the purse strings to unclench a little. America can afford it. We always have before this absolute riot of selfishness in government. Stop electing billionaires who are greedy to begin with.


@Metal-Brain said
So if Mother Teresa stopped helping people expecting others to contribute she would be pure evil? Fourth Reich material?

Maybe if you thought she was a republican.
You fail to notice the difference between a humanitarian like Mother Teresa and a stingy, greedy billionaire like Donald Trump.

ONE of those has the capacity to truly ruin good things.

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@Arkturos said
@Suzianne:

I agree with Raj, plus I'm sure the Military Junta of Myanmar considers the USA to be a bossy, full-of-itself interloper.

Another aspect is that some Buddhist cultures might be cooler with the phenomenon of death than many Americans are, because of the belief in reincarnation or transmigration of souls.

As asked above, why aren't Myanmar's more proximal n ...[text shortened]...

Young or old or in-between, everybody dies. Get used to it.

Sometimes idealism is the problem.
"Since the 2021 coup, Myanmar’s military junta has killed more than 6,000 people, arbitrarily detained more than 20,000, and renewed judicial executions. More than 3.5 million people are internally displaced. Human rights groups have documented the military’s torture and other ill-treatment of detainees, indiscriminate attacks, and the denial of humanitarian aid, which may amount to crimes against humanity and war crimes."

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/01/myanmar-four-years-after-coup-world-must-demand-accountability-for-atrocity-crimes/




"Young or old or in-between, everybody dies. Get used to it."

How did you get to be such an ugly person?




And agreeing with Raj just means you are as hateful as he is. Not a good look.


@Suzianne said
You fail to notice the difference between a humanitarian like Mother Teresa and a stingy, greedy billionaire like Donald Trump.

ONE of those has the capacity to truly ruin good things.
No. I am making the comparison because if nobody helps Mother Teresa why is she to blame for not continuing to help and Uncle Scrooge is who never helped at all?

You have entitlement syndrome. The nation who helped the most is pure evil because some other nation has a sense of entitlement of charity. Is something preventing the UK, France and Germany from doing that charity work instead?

Lay off the democrat propaganda. You only have a problem with ending charity because Trump did it. If a democrat did it you would not be complaining at all. You would be like " we have people that need charity here at home, that is the democrat way". Instead you let our own people live homeless and want to help foreigners you don't even know. Yet at the same time you condone Israel starving children to death in Gaza because you don't know them.

Did you forget about Gaza? Don't you care about those starving people?


@Rajk999 said
Lots of aid from nearby rich Islamic states are sent to this region to help the Rohingya [Muslim] people. What the US is doing is reducing aid to countries where it is not critical. Basically, many of these countries have to look after themselves instead of reproducing prolifically and expecting some other person to care for your children.

US aid to Myanmar prior to Tru ...[text shortened]... te Americans because they are not a democratic country and relations with the US is mostly strained.
When a people relies on food aid from the US and that food aid is withdrawn for no reason other than the American rulers would rather spend that money on themselves, yes, those people are going to have a bad attitude. This is also a result of watching your children die for nothing except selfishness of those responsible for that aid. You also do not understand the extent that aid that comes in is mostly coming in from back channels, by people who ardently believe in the cause. The aid was getting through. For comfortable people to sit back and claim it is useless to help their brothers due to a junta in that country who are already involved in a genocide against those people and therefore they should cut them off is unconscionable in the extreme. Resistance comes in many forms.

The 14 million deaths by 2030 due to these funding cuts is on the heads of those who cut that funding and on the heads of people like you who call for the funding to be cut off. As you know, Jesus had a far different idea of how we should treat our brothers than you do.


@Metal-Brain said
No. I am making the comparison because if nobody helps Mother Teresa why is she to blame for not continuing to help and Uncle Scrooge is who never helped at all?

You have entitlement syndrome. The nation who helped the most is pure evil because some other nation has a sense of entitlement of charity. Is something preventing the UK, France and Germany from doing that ch ...[text shortened]... ause you don't know them.

Did you forget about Gaza? Don't you care about those starving people?
I'm done with you.

All you know is hate, and you are stupid on top of it. You have the exact wrong end of every single stick you grab onto.

People like you are who put this demented madman in office.