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Originally posted by no1marauder
How about a 1000 feet?

"Snyder testified that he never saw the content of the signs as he entered and left St. John's on the day of his son's funeral," and recall that the signs were 1000 feet away from the church.

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2007_11_04-2007_11_10.shtml#1194480175

People's opinions you don't like are always a nuisance.
To tell you the truth, Marauder, I just don't care. I don't care about anything you think, say, or feel. Nobody else here does either.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
To tell you the truth, Marauder, I just don't care. I don't care about anything you think, say, or feel. Nobody else here does either.
That's why this "Debates" forum is such a joke and you are such a phony.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
To tell you the truth, Marauder, I just don't care. I don't care about anything you think, say, or feel. Nobody else here does either.
That's an easy way of avoiding backing down in the face of proof.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
That's an easy way of avoiding backing down in the face of proof.
OK they were 1000 feet away....big deal, still too close. Happy now?

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
OK they were 1000 feet away....big deal, still too close.
As a pistol shooter, you should surely be aware that there's a big difference between 25 meters and 300 meters...

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Originally posted by shavixmir
As a pistol shooter, you should surely be aware that there's a big difference between 25 meters and 300 meters...
What's your point?

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this is a sticky issue, frought with peril... but doesn't it seem that the church has chosen to protest funerals to maximize harrassment, rather than the spread of their message? I mean, if they were protesting in downtown Topeka, or handing out idiocy on city sidewalks, it would be a clear-cut "free-speech" issue... but this insistence to invade a family's private time puts the free speech argument on shaky ground.


Originally posted by Sam The Sham
What's your point?
The point is, that for the argument, Maurauder is right to bring up the subject of distance.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
To tell you the truth, Marauder, I just don't care. I don't care about anything you think, say, or feel. Nobody else here does either.
I care about what he thinks and he and I have almost never agreed
on anything. I think it odd that you dismiss out of hand an opinion
you dislike while discussiong someone else doing the same thing.
Kelly

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Originally posted by Darth Sponge
this is a sticky issue, frought with peril... but doesn't it seem that the church has chosen to protest funerals to maximize harrassment, rather than the spread of their message? I mean, if they were protesting in downtown Topeka, or handing out idiocy on city sidewalks, it would be a clear-cut "free-speech" issue... but this insistence to invade a family's private time puts the free speech argument on shaky ground.
The judge and jury certainly thought so... to the tune of 11 million dollars.

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Originally posted by Darth Sponge
this is a sticky issue, frought with peril... but doesn't it seem that the church has chosen to protest funerals to maximize harrassment, rather than the spread of their message? I mean, if they were protesting in downtown Topeka, or handing out idiocy on city sidewalks, it would be a clear-cut "free-speech" issue... but this insistence to invade a family's private time puts the free speech argument on shaky ground.
Why? Their "argument" is that God is punishing the US by killing off our soldiers because our laws are too lenient towards homosexuals. This is certainly a political and religious message. I have never heard that political and/or religious messages were banned from a city while a funeral was going on. As I pointed out, they were protesting a 1000 feet away on public property. How is this "invading the family's private time"?

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
The judge and jury certainly thought so... to the tune of 11 million dollars.
The judge and jury in Falwell v. Hustler thought so too, but that's why we have appellate courts. I expect this verdict to be overturned as well.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The judge and jury in Falwell v. Hustler thought so too, but that's why we have appellate courts. I expect this verdict to be overturned as well.
If it's not overturned, then will you please shut up about it?

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
If it's not overturned, then will you please shut up about it?
Suppose WBC protested on their own property, but their property happened to be visible from nearby funeral sites. If so, then in your view would WBC be constitutionally protected in their protests, despite the fact that their protests were disruptive to nearby funerals?

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
If it's not overturned, then will you please shut up about it?
If you have a principle Sam, surely it means that you stick to it through better and worse?

Say the church loses this one.
Who's to say that you won't lose when you're protesting something else?

Yes. It's horrible what these people were shouting (well, personally, I don't give a damn, I never listen to religious people anyways), but there is the point that they are allowed to say it.
If I stand up and say: "NO!" Then someone else in turn will stand up and say "No" when I'm screaming my lungs out about nazis.