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Twenty years ago today, on Oct 23, 2004, I joined RHP.

Also in 2004:

Mark Zuckerberg’s ‘Facebook’ was launched on Feb. 4, 2004
Second Iraq War ongoing (2003-2011)
President George W. Bush won reelection (Bush left office voluntarily in 2009)
President Karzai elected head of Afghanistan (left office 2014)
President Putin won 2nd term as President (Putin is still head of Russia)
Olympics held in Athens
Martha Stewart goes to prison (released in 2005)
Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl
Scott Peterson found guilty of murdering wife (SP still in prison)
Statue of Liberty reopens to the public after the Sept 11, 2001 attacks
Ronald Reagan’s funeral held in D.C.
Boston Red Sox win their first World Series in 86 years
D.C. sniper found guilty
Massachusetts became the first US state to legalize same-sex marriage (2015 legalized in all states)
NASA’s Spirit rover lands on Mars
Second Intifada ongoing (2000-2005)
Knesset approves PM Ariel Sharon's plan to withdraw 21 settlements from the Gaza Strip and four from the West Bank by the following year

US National Debt: $7.379 trillion (today $35.77 trillion)
DJIA: 10,315 (today: 42,924)
US median home price: $228k (today: $412k)
US median household income: $44k (today: $81k)
US Population: 293 million (today: 341 million)
Illegal migrants present in US: about 10 million (today: about 11 million)

Debate! LOL.


@spruce112358 said
Twenty years ago today, on Oct 23, 2004, I joined RHP.

Also in 2004:

Mark Zuckerberg’s ‘Facebook’ was launched on Feb. 4, 2004
Second Iraq War ongoing (2003-2011)
President George W. Bush won reelection (Bush left office voluntarily in 2009)
President Karzai elected head of Afghanistan (left office 2014)
President Putin won 2nd term as President (Putin is still ...[text shortened]... million)
Illegal migrants present in US: about 10 million (today: about 11 million)

Debate! LOL.
I see you are back as promised to support the killing of Jews.

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Nice to see you too, @Rajk999
😆


@spruce112358 said
Nice to see you too, @Rajk999
😆
Same to you. I look forward to your posts/threads.


@Rajk999 said
I see you are back as promised to support the killing of Jews.
Who supports killing Jews? Would that same person likewise support those who slaughtered them on Oct 7?

Watch for me in the Trump rally tonite, 7 eastern. I’ll be way front,


@TheListener said
Who supports killing Jews? Would that same person likewise support those who slaughtered them on Oct 7?

Watch for me in the Trump rally tonite, 7 eastern. I’ll be way front,
Mr Spruce112358, supports Islamic extremism and in the case of Hamas it is the killing of Jews. Hold on, you will see it for yourself.

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@Rajk999 said
Mr Spruce112358, supports Islamic extremism and in the case of Hamas it is the killing of Jews. Hold on, you will see it for yourself.
No. You think that people who oppose Israel’s treatment of Palestinians are pro-moslim terrorists.

Which is too stupid to even really debate.

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@spruce112358 said
Twenty years ago today, on Oct 23, 2004, I joined RHP.

Also in 2004:

Mark Zuckerberg’s ‘Facebook’ was launched on Feb. 4, 2004
Second Iraq War ongoing (2003-2011)
President George W. Bush won reelection (Bush left office voluntarily in 2009)
President Karzai elected head of Afghanistan (left office 2014)
President Putin won 2nd term as President (Putin is still ...[text shortened]... million)
Illegal migrants present in US: about 10 million (today: about 11 million)

Debate! LOL.
Where can you see when you first joined?
I can only see where I started paying for the current subscription, but I joined years and years earlier.

Even went to the meet ups, in London, back in the day.

Ahhhh good times!


EDIT:
Found it, sort of. First game completed: 19 february 2004.


@spruce112358 said
Mark Zuckerberg’s ‘Facebook’ was launched on Feb. 4, 2004
I'm sure that will never work out for him.


@shavixmir said
Where can you see when you first joined?
Look Left.

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Sewers of Holland

Joined 31 Jan 04
Moves 89492


@Rajk999 said
Mr Spruce112358, supports Islamic extremism and in the case of Hamas it is the killing of Jews. Hold on, you will see it for yourself.
What I don't support is ethnic cleansing, such as:

* Hitler ethnically cleansing Poland to create 'lebensraum' (living space) for people he deemed 'superior.'

* Native American 'relocations' to Oklahoma to open up areas for European settlement

* Israel ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages during the Nakba in the 1940's, creating Jewish settlements in the West Bank, and the current war to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

None of those things should ever have happened. People need to be able to live where they are living. They should never be forced to move to create 'lebensraum' for people of the right race or religion or skin color or whatever. True, it's a very old human notion but, along with slavery and exploitation, we should NEVER, EVER embrace it.

Nobody said anything about killing Jews. That doesn't need to happen and it shouldn't happen.

But the current Israel regime should be dismantled and replaced by one that represents all the people who live(d) in that region equally.


@Rajk999 said
Mr Spruce112358, supports Islamic extremism and in the case of Hamas it is the killing of Jews. Hold on, you will see it for yourself.
I have not really followed all this, as it has been going on for 10,000 years, their way of life, if you will.
But as I understand it is step one of all this is that the Israeli were killed in their beds at night. Slaughtered. Thousands of them or something. Would that not be what started all of this, which means the Israelis have to defend themselves? Were the murderers not the bad guys? Asking for a friend, which is me


@Russ said
I'm sure that will never work out for him.
He made a big mistake there.


@TheListener said
I have not really followed all this, as it has been going on for 10,000 years, their way of life, if you will.
But as I understand it is step one of all this is that the Israeli were killed in their beds at night. Slaughtered. Thousands of them or something. Would that not be what started all of this, which means the Israelis have to defend themselves? Were the murderers not the bad guys? Asking for a friend, which is me
We agree. The bad guys need to be eliminated. But they run and hide among the civilians, and the only way they can do that is with full civilian support.


@spruce112358 said
What I don't support is ethnic cleansing, such as:

* Hitler ethnically cleansing Poland to create 'lebensraum' (living space) for people he deemed 'superior.'

* Native American 'relocations' to Oklahoma to open up areas for European settlement

* Israel ethnically cleansing Palestinian villages during the Nakba in the 1940's, creating Jewish settlements in the We ...[text shortened]... be dismantled and replaced by one that represents all the people who live(d) in that region equally.
The Nakba is the fault of the Arabs. Here is the story again according to historical accounts:
- The British partitioned the land with the full support of the UN
- The Jews accepted and started setting up a state of Israel
- The Arabs refused and gathered an army of 5 surrounding Arab states to kill the Jews.
- The war started and the Arabs lost, and fled.

The right of return is only applicable under the UN guidelines if those affected can return to their land and live in peace. The Palestinians do not qualify.