17 Apr 11
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-62-percent-americans-support-2011
In a recent poll, it was found that 62% of Americans favored the recent $38.5 billion budget cut deal.
To break this down, those who opposed the most came mostly from the Republican side with 32% in opposition, 25% of independents, and only 18% of Democrats not approving.
The odd thing is, is that the article says that Republicans were more likely to have claimed victory on the deal. How can that be so with more Republicans opposing it?
If these numbers are correct, you may as well put a fork in it. America is through. Americans simply do not see the need to cut spending significantly, and neither does anyone in Washington.
17 Apr 11
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17 Apr 11
Originally posted by whodeyPerhaps, although I think you give less credit to Americans as a whole than they deserve. I personally think those poll numbers show a greater sense of realism with regards to divided government than you feel.
If these numbers are correct, you may as well put a fork in it. America is through. Americans simply do not see the need to cut spending significantly, and neither does anyone in Washington.
18 Apr 11
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Originally posted by wittywonkaGive them less credit than they deserve? To the country that elected "W" twice and Obama once with the likelyhood of electing him a second time I offer the following critic.
Perhaps, although I think you give less credit to Americans as a whole than they deserve. I personally think those poll numbers show a greater sense of realism with regards to divided government than you feel.
Why do I feel as though a bad hair day would be more politically devistating to Obama than him putting the nation further into debt by another trillion dollars? What is wrong with America? Is it because they are hopelessly drowning in greed? After all, no politician dare raise taxes nor should they day take away their free goodies or benefits or salary etc. To steal from future generations and possibly even destroy the future of the country is perfectly OK, so long as their social security checks come in tomorrow and taxes don't go up. Or is the American people simply stupid? I think it is a combination of the two. After all, greed is simply shot sidedness and stupidity. America, you are no better than those on Wall Street who created this last economic down turn. Theft is OK so long as your balance in your bank tomorrow is a little higher.
18 Apr 11
Originally posted by whodeyMy question is, how many actually know what's in the budget deal and then where the correlation is between those who know more about what is in it and whether they agree with it or not?
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-62-percent-americans-support-2011
In a recent poll, it was found that 62% of Americans favored the recent $38.5 billion budget cut deal.
To break this down, those who opposed the most came mostly from the Republican side with 32% in opposition, 25% of independents, and only 18% of Democrats not approving.
Th ...[text shortened]... simply do not see the need to cut spending significantly, and neither does anyone in Washington.
18 Apr 11
Originally posted by PsychoPawnGiven that the alternative was a government shutdown, I think the poll results merely show that people prefer that their elected officials actually accomplish the minimum requirements of their jobs. I don't really read much into it besides that.
My question is, how many actually know what's in the budget deal and then where the correlation is between those who know more about what is in it and whether they agree with it or not?
18 Apr 11
Originally posted by no1marauder" the alternative was a government shutdown"
Given that the alternative was a government shutdown, I think the poll results merely show that people prefer that their elected officials actually accomplish the minimum requirements of their jobs. I don't really read much into it besides that.
That was the threat of the President and the Senate. Where they bluffing? What was the consequence if they weren't? A Government shutdown wouldn't be so bad, IMHO. They've got it broken down to essential and non-essential functions. I'd say leave it shutdown permanently so that only the essentials get done. Why in hell are we paying for "non-essential" government functions anyway?
18 Apr 11
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Originally posted by PsychoPawnI would say that very few know what the actual deal was only less than 1.6% of spending. i would also guess that even less know the fiscal state of the union is in right now. I recently heard that the actual figure of a $38.5 billion cut is not really accurate, rather, it is really only a cut ranging in the milliions. The $38.5 billion cut is just smoke and mirrors.
My question is, how many actually know what's in the budget deal and then where the correlation is between those who know more about what is in it and whether they agree with it or not?
By in large all people care about is what their next pay check says and what benefits they have. Just so long as you don't tamper with any of that they will ignore you.
18 Apr 11
Originally posted by no1marauderYep, just keep the doors open and the debt piling up.
Given that the alternative was a government shutdown, I think the poll results merely show that people prefer that their elected officials actually accomplish the minimum requirements of their jobs. I don't really read much into it besides that.
Eat drink a d be merry for tomorrow we die!!!
18 Apr 11
Originally posted by normbenignAll you see is drama by both parties to try and persuade the American public that the two parties are actually different. So they haggle over nickles and dimes with the underlying threat of gloom and doom to attract your attention. After all, if they did not gain your attention and demonize the other side would they have any support from the public? In fact, if they had no support from the masses from what source would their legitimacy be given?
" the alternative was a government shutdown"
That was the threat of the President and the Senate. Where they bluffing? What was the consequence if they weren't? A Government shutdown wouldn't be so bad, IMHO. They've got it broken down to essential and non-essential functions. I'd say leave it shutdown permanently so that only the essentials get done. Why in hell are we paying for "non-essential" government functions anyway?
18 Apr 11
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I just got done reading that the US AAA rating on debt is now in negative territor which is down from its stable rating. It appears there is around a 30% chance that the rating will be down graded in the next two years which will cause increaed borrowing rates for the government and the rest of the country. This would have a devestating impact on the Republic.
Congrats to Obama and the rest of the federal government.
Morons!! ðŸ˜
18 Apr 11
Originally posted by whodeyI never recall you being so worried about the government debt pre-2008.
Yep, just keep the doors open and the debt piling up.
Eat drink a d be merry for tomorrow we die!!!
If you and norm want to convince the American people that we don't need a government, go for it. If you want to convince them that what is needed is a government that does virtually nothing, go for that.
19 Apr 11
Originally posted by no1marauderSo your suggesting that my intentions are focused upon partisanship? Then tell me, why did I just get done bashing Boehner and the GOP for the recent budget deal? It is you who could care less about the deficit and overall debt in the US by posting threads about how America has all kinds of safe ways to borrow money indefinately.
I never recall you being so worried about the government debt pre-2008.
If you and norm want to convince the American people that we don't need a government, go for it. If you want to convince them that what is needed is a government that does virtually nothing, go for that.
When progressives like yourself get done running the US into the ground, maybe a light bulb will finally go off in peoples heads and reject the ideologies that got them there.
19 Apr 11
Originally posted by whodeyI'm just guessing here, but I think this poll result means American's support Republicans and Democrats working together to get results (even if they are not perfect results), rather than doing nothing.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-62-percent-americans-support-2011
In a recent poll, it was found that 62% of Americans favored the recent $38.5 billion budget cut deal.
To break this down, those who opposed the most came mostly from the Republican side with 32% in opposition, 25% of independents, and only 18% of Democrats not approving.
Th ...[text shortened]... simply do not see the need to cut spending significantly, and neither does anyone in Washington.
19 Apr 11
Originally posted by whodeyActually unlike you, I've made straightforward proposals that would quickly balance the budget. You, on the other hand, have offered no specifics and simply rant and rave.
So your suggesting that my intentions are focused upon partisanship? Then tell me, why did I just get done bashing Boehner and the GOP for the recent budget deal? It is you who could care less about the deficit and overall debt in the US by posting threads about how America has all kinds of safe ways to borrow money indefinately.
When progressives like y ...[text shortened]... a light bulb will finally go off in peoples heads and reject the ideologies that got them there.