69 Years Ago

Originally posted by no1marauder
Then you'll love the edit.

"Rebel traitors"?
You are venturing down a slippery slope now sonny Jim

edit: I am not even gonna bother....

Originally posted by utherpendragon
The Japs bit off more than the could chew and got what they deserved! Since then we got draft dodging , draft card burning Presidents apologizing to them and punk community organizers bowing to them. Revisionist progressive text book writers who want to brain wash our children into thinking the USA was the aggressor.
May those brave American serviceman rest in peace and God bless the pilots of the Enola Gay!

Holy hell.
No wonder the world's gone to pot.

Originally posted by utherpendragon
Typical of a progressive to selective edit.


[b]"May those brave American serviceman rest in peace and God bless the pilots of the Enola Gay!"-uthrpendragon

Thats honoring fallen and WW2 vets moron![/b]

Don't be stupid. The crewmen of the Enola Gay murdered 80.000+ women and children. Burning them alive.

You honour that?
What sort of sick, evil, Hitlerite are you?

Originally posted by shavixmir
Don't be stupid. The crewmen of the Enola Gay murdered 80.000+ women and children. Burning them alive.

You honour that?
What sort of sick, evil, Hitlerite are you?

The sort of Hitlerite who pushes grannies and prams into traffic, then strokes his teeny wienie with a tweezer while watching the ensuing mayhem.

The sort of Hitlerite who as a wee tot put ponytails in inkwells and gave his own mum titty twists when the spigot ran dry.

The sort of Hitlerite who hates every gay whose first name isn't "Enola," but gladly swaps spit with any quadruped that has a tongue.

The sort of Hitlerite who puts Hitler mustaches on all the faces in a Cosmopolitan magazine at the supermarket checkout.

That sort of Hitlerite.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
69 years ago, December 7th, 1941 The United States had the largest anti war, isolationist, pacification movement it has ever had. Ignore the Japanese Imperialism, let Europe solve it's own problems was the cry. Stick to our own borders and stay out of the business of other countries.
And a few hours after Pearl Harbor all that changed.

I'd like to see a return to our pre-WW2 values.

Is your knowledge of history really that bad ? In no way was the war with Japan a product of isolationism. In fact, had the USA adopted such a policy in regards to Japan it is very likely that a war with Japan would not have happened. The Dutch, English and Americans had placed an oil embargo on the Japanese, which would have completely starved the Japanese economy. It's choices were either to stop the war with China to get the embargo lifted or total war to conquer oilfields for themselves. Without this embargo Japan would have been perfectly happy leaving the USA alone and just buying the oil from the Western powers.

And a disclaimer because otherwise this will be classified as an anti-American post by the usual suspects, I think the USA made the right choice in imposing the embargo to try and stop the Japanese aggression, but it still is a historical fact that this embargo caused the Japanese to attack.

Originally posted by Barts
Is your knowledge of history really that bad ? In no way was the war with Japan a product of isolationism. In fact, had the USA adopted such a policy in regards to Japan it is very likely that a war with Japan would not have happened. The Dutch, English and Americans had placed an oil embargo on the Japanese, which would have completely starved the Japanese ec ...[text shortened]... aggression, but it still is a historical fact that this embargo caused the Japanese to attack.

So, the U.S. actually provoked the sneak attack by Japan?

Originally posted by utherpendragon
So, the U.S. actually provoked the sneak attack by Japan?

Provoked ? As in "They put the embargo in place so the Japanese would attack" ? In that case no. The goal of the embargo was to stop the Sino-Japanese war, however, the USA was probably perfectly aware that putting the embargo in place could lead to war.

Originally posted by utherpendragon
The Japs bit off more than the could chew and got what they deserved! Since then we got draft dodging , draft card burning Presidents apologizing to them and punk community organizers bowing to them. Revisionist progressive text book writers who want to brain wash our children into thinking the USA was the aggressor.
May those brave American serviceman rest in peace and God bless the pilots of the Enola Gay!

Im often amused by the delusional fear and paranoia which emanates from your posts but I have to say that you seem to have become obssessed about these "progressives". What exactly makes you think there is some huge conspiracy devised to "brainwash" children out there?

Originally posted by utherpendragon
So, the U.S. actually provoked the sneak attack by Japan?

The United States then as now has meddled all over the globe. We are an ambitious superpower and since conquering people isn't right, and often complete isolationism isn't right, we meddle. We're safe from retaliation geographically and militarily. We have inherited this from the British Empire, though we've tried to restrain the outright conquest over the last half of our existence.

This of course pisses off ambitious regional powers who want to strike back but cannot. So they target whatever they can; the Twin Towers, our computer networks, the compassion of our civilians, etc.

In this case, when Japan began expanding imperialistically and committing atrocities, we cut them off from our markets with an embargo. In 1940 we stopped selling them stuff. 80% of the fuel Japan had been using to power it's Navy was purchased from us. When we cut them off, Japan decided to retaliate. So given Japan's gangster mindset at the time, we had betrayed them and clearly were now a threat as the British were.

We had a right to cut off those exports. Japan was in the wrong. But given an imperialistic, gangster mindset, yeah, it made sense that we provoked it. Sort of.

Originally posted by generalissimo
Im often amused by the delusional fear and paranoia which emanates from your posts but I have to say that you seem to have become obssessed about these "progressives". What exactly makes you think there is some huge conspiracy devised to "brainwash" children out there?

Because there really are several small conspiracies to brainwash our children out there. Progressives refers to one. Christian fundamentalist home schooling is another. The logic is that everyone is biased, including all educational systems and all educators, so it's best to just pick the "correct" bias and brainwash the kids with that one.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Because there really are several small conspiracies to brainwash our children out there. Progressives refers to one. Christian fundamentalist home schooling is another. The logic is that everyone is biased, including all educational systems and all educators, so it's best to just pick the "correct" bias and brainwash the kids with that one.

Perhaps uther is an advocate for the elimination of the educational system as a whole, absence thereof would certainly hinder the progressive plan to brainwash the children.

Originally posted by generalissimo
Perhaps uther is an advocate for the elimination of the educational system as a whole, absence thereof would certainly hinder the progressive plan to brainwash the children.

No, the rich people need to be able to hire professionals with the preferred bias. But the public educational system is a tool of the statist progressives, or so the conspiracy theory goes.