@no1marauder saidDo the math.
It's certainly still a threat to the unvaccinated population; a rather substantial majority of those with coronavirus antibodies got them through vaccination.
About 7,000 Americans died since Sunday of this "non-threat".
https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/
63% of the population have received at least one dose. 80-63=17
An average of 17% of the population that are unvaccinated have had C19. 10% of the population is not fully vaccinated. Most of the vaccinated are older people so a lot of the unvaccinated are younger people at low risk of dying.
"About 7,000 Americans died since Sunday of this "non-threat"."
What is your source of information?
@eladar saidYou really have reached heights of stupidity rarely achieved on this board.
If covid was really so bad, you would be dead.
Obviously it is not that bad.
Remember your brilliant predictions last year that COVID would fade away when summer came culminating in your infamous claim that New Zealand would have more deaths on July 4th, 2020 than the US would?
I'm still amazed you're spouting BS about COVID after being so ludicrously wrong last year.
@metal-brain saidLook it up. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Do the math.
https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/
63% of the population have received at least one dose. 80-63=17
An average of 17% of the population that are unvaccinated have had C19. 10% of the population is not fully vaccinated. Most of the vaccinated are older people so a lot of the unvaccinated are younger people at low risk of ...[text shortened]... bout 7,000 Americans died since Sunday of this "non-threat"."
What is your source of information?
Damn, there sure are a lot of people at "low risk" of dying, dying.
@no1marauder saidThat website doesn't tell me how many died since last Sunday.
Look it up. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
Damn, there sure are a lot of people at "low risk" of dying, dying.
It also says some of them are Patients Under Investigation (PUI) in the United States.
Are you sure?
@no1marauder saidObviously I was wrong about small island nations.
You really have reached heights of stupidity rarely achieved on this board.
Remember your brilliant predictions last year that COVID would fade away when summer came culminating in your infamous claim that New Zealand would have more deaths on July 4th, 2020 than the US would?
I'm still amazed you're spouting BS about COVID after being so ludicrously wrong last year.
What I am not wrong about is that covid has not killed s large percentage of Americans.
What percentage under the age of 50 have been killed by covid?
Oh wait, that would require actually knowing something, which is beyond your normal discourse.
@metal-brain saidYes, it does. It has a chart called "Total Coronavirus Deaths in the United States" which gives a cumulative total each day. That chart runs until yesterday. Then it tells you how many new deaths occurred today on the first page, with a breakdown by State.
That website doesn't tell me how many died since last Sunday.
It also says some of them are Patients Under Investigation (PUI) in the United States.
Are you sure?
So, go to the chart on September 2nd subtract the number on August 30th and then add today's total.
And do your own homework from now on.
@no1marauder saidDo you have that total number of American deaths for Americans under 50?
Yes, it does. It has a chart called "Total Coronavirus Deaths in the United States" which gives a cumulative total each day. That chart runs until yesterday. Then it tells you how many new deaths occurred today on the first page, with a breakdown by State.
So, go to the chart on September 2nd subtract the number on August 30th and then add today's total.
And do your own homework from now on.
@no1marauder saidIn other words, you have no clue.
We've discussed this before and I have no inclination to waste my time on it again.
Face it, 95 percent of covid deaths ar ed people 50 or older, which means very free deaths for the younger people.
Then you take that small number and divide that by all Americans younger than 50. It will be less than 1 percent.
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@eladar saidNo, in actual words: "We've discussed this before and I have no inclination to waste my time on it again."
In other words, you have no clue.
Face it, 95 percent of covid deaths ar ed people 50 or older, which means very free deaths for the younger people.
Then you take that small number and divide that by all Americans younger than 50. It will be less than 1 percent.
People over 50 are still people, most with decades of life ahead of them. Why you think their deaths don't matter is a question you've consistently refused to answer. I'm tired of asking that question and having you avoid it.
About 35,000 people under 50 have died so far in the US. Why you think that is trivial is another question that you haven't been very forthcoming in answering.
And to tell you the truth, I'm not that interested in your answers anymore. There really isn't anything to "debate"; you think hundreds of thousands of Americans dying of a disease is perfectly hunky dory. That is not a rational point of view and it is a waste of rational people's time to try to convince you or other irrational people differently.
@eladar saidAnd so ..........
https://www.yahoo.com/news/many-americans-coronavirus-antibodies-blood-214756126.html
More than 80% of Americans have coronavirus antibodies acquired through infection or vaccination, according to a new study of over 1.4 million blood donations across the U.S.
Looks like covid is not a general threat to the US population.
What is your argument ??
@no1marauder saidEven if he did his own homework, his "math" post above shows he'd get an F.
Yes, it does. It has a chart called "Total Coronavirus Deaths in the United States" which gives a cumulative total each day. That chart runs until yesterday. Then it tells you how many new deaths occurred today on the first page, with a breakdown by State.
So, go to the chart on September 2nd subtract the number on August 30th and then add today's total.
And do your own homework from now on.
@no1marauder saidWhy would you want to add up the last 6 days in such a painstaking way? Wouldn't it have been easier to give a monthly total?
Yes, it does. It has a chart called "Total Coronavirus Deaths in the United States" which gives a cumulative total each day. That chart runs until yesterday. Then it tells you how many new deaths occurred today on the first page, with a breakdown by State.
So, go to the chart on September 2nd subtract the number on August 30th and then add today's total.
And do your own homework from now on.
Your link includes a chart showing daily deaths and they are about one third of what they were at the peak in January. That number should drop once the remaining 20% get the virus.
It is not surprising cases have picked up in the last couple of months. The vaccinated are mixing and mingling again and spreading SARS2 to the unvaccinated. The vaccinated are the super spreaders right now and we are seeing it in the numbers.
That leaves us with these choices:
1. Let the vaccinated spread SARS2 to the vaccinated and the unvaccinated (including those that cannot get the vaccine) in hopes of achieving herd immunity once almost everyone has had it.
2. Put restrictions on both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated equally to slow the spread.
3. Force people to get vaccinated even though it does nothing to protect others to save them from themselves.
4. Force non-conformists to conform whether it makes sense or not to punish their rebellion to conformity.
Which do you suggest?
@shavixmir saidThey are available. C19 deaths are less than one third of the peak and will likely drop soon. Many of the people who are unvaccinated are children and they have very low rates of hospitalization.
The question is: how many IC beds are still available?