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'Trump Was So Bad': Fox News Voter Panel Declares Harris Debate Winner

What a beat down. Trump looked confused, tired, and old.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-was-so-bad-fox-news-voter-panel-declares-harris-debate-winner/ar-AA1qnXP8?ocid=BingNewsSerp

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-voter-panel-says-harris-won-debate?msockid=389f88ca74e161b231889853755260bd

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We learned something very disquieting about Trump: his news sources are dubious and he does not trouble himself to find out facts; he is childishly gullible.

"When Trump was asked about his comment last month falsely claiming Harris only recently started to identify as Black, the former president defended his remarks as something he’d read somewhere."

"Trump repeated a debunked myth about Haitian immigrants eating pets in Springfield, Ohio." When ABC News moderator David Muir pointed out that city officials denied any evidence that migrants in Springfield were actually eating pets, Trump doubled down, saying “the people on television” were saying it."

Yup, that's actually what Trump said -- somebody said it on tv, he read it somewhere, so Trump believes it. Is it any wonder that he thinks that if he just keeps repeating his false narratve about the 2020 election, somebody is going to believe it?


"He argued inaccurately that a former governor of Virginia said that babies should be executed – a reference to comments former Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam, a doctor, made about care for births after nonviable pregnancies.

Trump repeated the false claim that some states allow abortions to be performed after a baby has been born, which drew a fact check from ABC News’ Linsey Davis."

He gets facts wrong, or puts a wholly bizarre interpretation on them, he takes in fake news unfiltered and remembers only fragments (somebody said it, read it somewhere). Trump is a mental midget with a very tenuous grip on reality.

quotes taken from:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/debate-takeaways-trump-harris/index.html

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Bottom line is will it make a frigging bit of difference, hopefully the pols may tell us in a week or two. I think she gets a bump of maybe 2 percent but no more.
If it works, then we win and Trump goes to prison. Like a traitor should.

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What seems loudest to me after the debate is the amazing SILENCE of the cons here, like they are deathly afraid someone will say something like, "Is there any question now that Don the Con is demented?"

They'll continue to prop him up until the election, though, kind of like an extended "Weekend at Bernie's".

The best zinger I heard last night was Harris saying, "Talk about extreme" right after the diatribe on immigrants eating pets.

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My step daughter and my own blood sister will still vote for Trump even if he is literally in prison.
And millions of other utterly duped people around the country.

My guess is Harris will get MAYBE 2 percent bump up as a result of this debate, when it SHOULD be 40% but that's my half ass prediction.

You know, all this support for a convicted felon says a lot about the much vaunted human intelligence doesn't it.

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Hey, give the man a break. At least he didn't lisp his way through the debate the way he did with Elon Musk.

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@Suzianne said
What seems loudest to me after the debate is the amazing SILENCE of the cons here, like they are deathly afraid someone will say something like, "Is there any question now that Don the Con is demented?"

They'll continue to prop him up until the election, though, kind of like an extended "Weekend at Bernie's".

The best zinger I heard last night was Harris saying, "Talk about extreme" right after the diatribe on immigrants eating pets.
Trump showed his true colors: petty, vindictive, flustered when not in control of the narrative, and childish.

The take away moment for me was when he claimed that crime rates are rising (implying it's Biden's fault--but what has that to do with Harris??); he gets called out for it by the moderator, citing FBI statistics that violent crime rates have been falling; Trump doubles down that the FBI is a fraud without citing any counter source for his claims. Trump is so obviously making this up as he goes along, inventing 'alternative facts' to trigger his voter base's darkest fears; this is just plain schoolboy dopey.

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@mchill said
'Trump Was So Bad': Fox News Voter Panel Declares Harris Debate Winner

What a beat down. Trump looked confused, tired, and old.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-was-so-bad-fox-news-voter-panel-declares-harris-debate-winner/ar-AA1qnXP8?ocid=BingNewsSerp

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-voter-panel-says-harris-won-debate?msockid=389f88ca74e161b231889853755260bd
You mean he forgot to say "prison slavery Kamala"?
And he forgot to say Kamala was not elected by the people after she called him a wanna be dictator?

Like pro wrestling. It was all an act.
Trump is stupid and that is why he could not bring up what I have brought up for the last few weeks. Fool yourself into thinking that MB is so much smarted than Trump the words "prison slavery Kamala" could not come out no matter how angry he got.

Hey moron...he helped Kamala look good. Don't you think he was capable of saying she didn't get voted into the nomination? Oh....he is to tired and old. Like Biden was. Trump has dementia too.....right?

Kamala will be the next POTUS because she is not old and tired.
Whatever satisfies your confirmation bias. Trump was too old and tired to debate like a normal person. Keep telling yourself he really believed Jamaicans are eating cats and dogs. He is really that stupid. He thought that would put him in the white house again. Brilliant. Everybody knows they eat our pets.

Or......that was the fake smack talk script and he followed it like any good actor would.

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Anything you say COMRADE.

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Three Numbers........
FIVE.. Number of times ABS fact-checked Trump. Kamala.....ZERO.

SIX Number of times Trump was asked a follow-up question. Kamala...ZERO

ABC is a disgrace. And did you get K going into sympathty, 'I was a middle class child'. That is what she said when asked if people are better off now than when we had Trump. That is whas she said. Did not ever answer it.

Here are some lies told by Kamala.

She said she inherited a bad economy, said Trump wants a national abortion ban... said He wants 2025, said he wants Tax break for upper brackets. Said she inherited the worst joblessness since the great depression, said would be a bloodbath on day 1.....(he meant the markets if he does not win).

The public still has NO idea how she is going to lower costs and do all the other things she promises. We know nothing about what she will do.

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Oh, you mean Trump didn't lie at all? They are eating dogs and cats.
Right.
MILLIONS of criminals crossing our border illegally.
Right.
I didn't add the 31 others because you glaze over after the first couple of sentences.

YEAH BOY

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@AverageJoe1 said
Three Numbers........
FIVE.. Number of times ABS fact-checked Trump. Kamala.....ZERO.

SIX Number of times Trump was asked a follow-up question. Kamala...ZERO

ABC is a disgrace. And did you get K going into sympathty, 'I was a middle class child'. That is what she said when asked if people are better off now than when we had Trump. T ...[text shortened]... ng to lower costs and do all the other things she promises. We know nothing about what she will do.
Cry little joey They fact checked because orange man is a liar. Kamala is not.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Three Numbers........
FIVE.. Number of times ABS fact-checked Trump. Kamala.....ZERO.

SIX Number of times Trump was asked a follow-up question. Kamala...ZERO

ABC is a disgrace. And did you get K going into sympathty, 'I was a middle class child'. That is what she said when asked if people are better off now than when we had Trump. T ...[text shortened]... ng to lower costs and do all the other things she promises. We know nothing about what she will do.
Trump lied through his teeth. Here's the list:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/fact-check-debate-trump-harris/index.html

Harris didn't, although she made one claim which needed some context to be interpreted correctly.

EDIT: Here is just one example of Trumpism: Trump hasn't the foggiest idea how tariffs work. He thinks the exporting country pays it. He's wrong. The importer pays it and passes it on to the end-customer, that means you, Joe.

"Former President Donald Trump said Tuesday the United States took in billions of dollars from China as a result of his tariffs.

Facts First: Trump’s claim about how tariffs work is false. A US tariff is paid by importing businesses in the United States – not other countries – when a foreign-made good arrives at the American border.

Here’s how tariffs work: When the United States puts a tariff on an imported good, the cost of the tariff usually comes directly out of the bank account of an American importer.

Study after study, including one from the federal government’s bipartisan US International Trade Commission, have found that Americans have borne almost the entire cost of Trump’s tariffs on Chinese products.

It’s true that the US Treasury has collected more than $242 billion from the tariffs Trump imposed on imported solar panels, steel and aluminum, and Chinese-made goods – but those duties were paid by US importers, not the country of China. "

Quoted from cnn above.

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@Suzianne said
What seems loudest to me after the debate is the amazing SILENCE of the cons here, like they are deathly afraid someone will say something like, "Is there any question now that Don the Con is demented?"

They'll continue to prop him up until the election, though, kind of like an extended "Weekend at Bernie's".

The best zinger I heard last night was Harris saying, "Talk about extreme" right after the diatribe on immigrants eating pets.
the lib media was proclaiming killary won the debates in 2016 too...how did that work out for you? LOL

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