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Originally posted by PhrannyHi, Phranny. Wonder why he refused to buy it for himself and his family.
Obama will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents if only for implementing the Affordable Care Act. Those opposed to this act are just plain mean.
Making the various plans optional wouldn't have met resistance at all.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThe various plans aren't optional? Admittedly, there's a "tax" for not joining, but it's not quite like waterboarding.
Hi, Phranny. Wonder why he refused to buy it for himself and his family.
Making the various plans optional wouldn't have met resistance at all.
PS: What are you going to do?
Originally posted by JS357OBAMACARE is Mandated: Buy it or pay penalties. Gets worse: This Federal Insurance Program (passed into law in 2010) isn't even yet funded. Also, many uninsured people may not be able to afford its Total Cost: Modest Premium plus Co-Pays in the context of Deductible Limits in the thousands of dollars. Others with good incomes will see their premiums double.
The various plans aren't optional? Admittedly, there's a "tax" for not joining, but it's not quite like waterboarding.
PS: What are you going to do?
Once you're in and have an [ID Card], you may still not be able to receive care in a timely manner in your immediate geographical area whenever needed (some hospitals aggressively cutting staffs; and doctors retiring early, rather than deal with the onerous administrative burdens). Also, since your private data will be computerized it may be susceptible to hacker theft and unlawful use of your identity. Still looking into my options with a friend (she works for Medicare in Las Vegas).
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI bet some how some way that the penalties will come out of retirement plans for those that do not have jobs or insurance. Let the fleecing begin.
OBAMACARE is Mandated: Buy it or pay penalties. Gets worse: This Federal Insurance Program (passed into law in 2010) isn't even yet funded. Also, many uninsured people may not be able to afford its Total Cost: Modest Premium plus Co-Pays in the context of Deductible Limits in the thousands of dollars. Others with good incomes will see their premi ...[text shortened]... our identity. Still looking into my options with a friend (she works for Medicare in Las Vegas).
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThis may also be a way to start limiting the ownership of private property in this country. They will have total control of ones finances unless a person is wealthy to begin with.
Valid concern for many as weeks and months become years.