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  1. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    20 Jun '17 10:19
    With so many groups fighting against each other in the middle east (almost too many to count) maybe the United States should pull all of it's armed forces out of the middle east and let Russia waste it's resources trying to referee this mess. They'll always be at least half a dozen groups willing to blow each other up in the name of....something. I predict after 10 years of being a very large target there, mother Russia won't want anything to do with the middle east either.
  2. 20 Jun '17 10:38
    Originally posted by mchill
    With so many groups fighting against each other in the middle east (almost too many to count) maybe the United States should pull all of it's armed forces out of the middle east and let Russia waste it's resources trying to referee this mess. They'll always be at least half a dozen groups willing to blow each other up in the name of....something. I predict af ...[text shortened]... a very large target there, mother Russia won't want anything to do with the middle east either.
    I think US should clean their own mess up. Remember that USA promised to bring democracy to Iraq, failing big time, leaving a country in chaos.
  3. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    20 Jun '17 11:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    With so many groups fighting against each other in the middle east (almost too many to count) maybe the United States should pull all of it's armed forces out of the middle east and let Russia waste it's resources trying to referee this mess. They'll always be at least half a dozen groups willing to blow each other up in the name of....something. I predict af ...[text shortened]... a very large target there, mother Russia won't want anything to do with the middle east either.
    Russia doesn't care to 'referee' anything.

    They support governments that can serve their (Russia's) interests and the rest can pretty much just rot in their own waste.

    Not too different from Trump's Amerika.
  4. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    20 Jun '17 11:15 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    I think US should clean their own mess up. Remember that USA promised to bring democracy to Iraq, failing big time, leaving a country in chaos.
    Yes, the US promised democracy to Iraq and all Iraq got was another failed experiment in libertarianism.
  5. 20 Jun '17 11:37
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Yes, the US promised democracy to Iraq and all Iraq got was another failed experiment in libertarianism.
    And further - USA saved Kuwait from Saddam and his Iraqi forces. Because USA is always on side of any democracy.
    Kuwait is still not a democracy. Wasn't then, wasn't now.
    It's all about the oil.
  6. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    20 Jun '17 12:51
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    And further - USA saved Kuwait from Saddam and his Iraqi forces. Because USA is always on side of any democracy.
    Kuwait is still not a democracy. Wasn't then, wasn't now.
    It's all about the oil.
    It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure THAT one out
  7. 20 Jun '17 13:06
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure THAT one out
    Exactly. Any state can just go and get the oil they need, right?
    Sweden need oil, and we know there is oil in Texas, so we go and get it, right?
    US do it, so can we, right?

    Wrong.

    This is about morality. States just cannot go and get things from others just because they need it.
  8. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    20 Jun '17 14:39
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Exactly. Any state can just go and get the oil they need, right?
    Sweden need oil, and we know there is oil in Texas, so we go and get it, right?
    US do it, so can we, right?

    Wrong.

    This is about morality. States just cannot go and get things from others just because they need it.
    Fortunately oil will be relagated to the dust bin of history now that clean green energy is coming through. One less morality war to be fought.
  9. 20 Jun '17 15:00
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Fortunately oil will be relagated to the dust bin of history now that clean green energy is coming through. One less morality war to be fought.
    The sun is fair. Gives its energy in abundance.
    It's very popular in Sweden right now.
  10. Subscriber karoly aczel
    Fortnite Kid
    21 Jun '17 00:23
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    I think US should clean their own mess up. Remember that USA promised to bring democracy to Iraq, failing big time, leaving a country in chaos.
    The trillion dollar military budget has to be maintained. Peace and resolution with those countries is not desirable if you want to keep military funding up
  11. 21 Jun '17 06:54
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    The trillion dollar military budget has to be maintained. Peace and resolution with those countries is not desirable if you want to keep military funding up
    What individuals get death row for, get states away with...