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...Scriptures for Christians and Jews fault murder and theft on human hatred and covetousness, not on weapons, which are morally neutral, to be employed for good or evil. But the “God Not Guns” coalition prefers to blame inanimate objects rather the corruptions of the human heart. The Religious Left typically locates salvation in legislation, not God. And its secularized salvation inevitably demands the expansion of state power at the expense of the individual. Who, then, are the real “idolaters?” writes Mark D. Tooley.

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=50F16307-FA00-455E-969A-80E3F0FE9E5D

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Only Jesus saves.

America should remember that and forget about all those crazy interpretations.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Only Jesus saves.

America should remember that and forget about all those crazy interpretations.
That reminds me, the other day I saw a billboard that said:

"Need help? Call Jesus: 1-800-005-3787"

...Out of curiosity I called.

A Mexican showed up with a tow truck.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
That reminds me, the other day I saw a billboard that said:

"Need help? Call Jesus: 1-800-005-3787"

...Out of curiosity I called.

A Mexican showed up with a tow truck.
LOL

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
...Scriptures for Christians and Jews fault murder and theft on human hatred and covetousness, not on weapons, which are morally neutral, to be employed for good or evil. But the “God Not Guns” coalition prefers to blame inanimate objects rather the corruptions of the human heart. The Religious Left typically locates salvation in legislation, n ...[text shortened]... ey.

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=50F16307-FA00-455E-969A-80E3F0FE9E5D
This so called "Rev." Nancy Smith needs to get her story strait. Those who hold to their guns do not see it as some magical thing that keeps them safe, nor do they believe that those who rather not have guns are the enemy. We just rather they keep to themselves and not try to take away our rights. We know that it is the human who is to blame if they use the gun to commit a crime. The Liberals are the ones who try to make the killer out to be the victim amd making excuses for them.

BTW, Nancy Smith is not a woman of God for if she was she would not be calling her self a Rev. nor would she be leading a congragation.

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Originally posted by pritybetta
This so called "Rev." Nancy Smith needs to get her story strait. Those who hold to their guns do not see it as some magical thing that keeps them safe, nor do they believe that those who rather not have guns are the enemy. We just rather they keep to themselves and not try to take away our rights. We know that it is the human who is to blame if they use t ...[text shortened]... r if she was she would not be calling her self a Rev. nor would she be leading a congragation.
please read the book of Ruth

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
...Scriptures for Christians and Jews fault murder and theft on human hatred and covetousness, not on weapons, which are morally neutral, to be employed for good or evil. But the “God Not Guns” coalition prefers to blame inanimate objects rather the corruptions of the human heart. The Religious Left typically locates salvation in legislation, n ...[text shortened]... ey.

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=50F16307-FA00-455E-969A-80E3F0FE9E5D
But can a "corruption of the human heart" be found loaded in a child's parent's closet and accidentally go off?

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Originally posted by pritybetta
This so called "Rev." Nancy Smith needs to get her story strait. Those who hold to their guns do not see it as some magical thing that keeps them safe, nor do they believe that those who rather not have guns are the enemy. We just rather they keep to themselves and not try to take away our rights. We know that it is the human who is to blame if they use t ...[text shortened]... r if she was she would not be calling her self a Rev. nor would she be leading a congragation.
BTW, Nancy Smith is not a woman of God for if she was she would not be calling her self a Rev. nor would she be leading a congragation.


I thought women were the first proclaimers of the resurrection of Jesus. You may say I don't know the Bible, but I know that much.

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Ultimately its about a reasonably safe work environment. We drive cars. In an accident its the driver of the car not the inanimate car itself that does the killing. But would society allow a lack of regulation in terms of the speed you could travel in that car through certain areas like schools for instance?

Would we accept that underage kids or unlicensed kids could get behind the wheel of one?

No, conmon sense usually prevails and we accept that for cars to be a blessing to society, they have to operate within a very heavily regulated system, where the cars have to meet a certain basic level of reliability and the people who would drive them have to go through a well established licensing system.

Yet guns which if representing a basic right to own surely considering its devastating effects if used impulsively why should it attract less regulation than the owning and driving of automobiles?

If one considers other countries like Switzerland, that have also enjoyed a long affiliation with guns and gun culture, then it would seem that part of their success in not having the same per capita deaths by firearms as does the US must surely rest with their more thorough approach to the handling of weapons, and their insistence that every citizen be competent in its use.

It would seem that if your society is going to embrace the right to bear arms, it should also embrace the right for everyone in that society to be educated and show competence in the use of those firearms.

Just like we expect every citizen to be able to get a licence and be able to drive a car in a law abiding manner.

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Originally posted by kirksey957
BTW, Nancy Smith is not a woman of God for if she was she would not be calling her self a Rev. nor would she be leading a congragation.


I thought women were the first proclaimers of the resurrection of Jesus. You may say I don't know the Bible, but I know that much.
Women were not forbided to be proclaimers, only not to speak in a church where there is a congragation. If they are not to speak in a church then they should not be leading a congragation.

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Originally posted by duecer
please read the book of Ruth
Where in the book of Ruth does it say she lead a congragation?

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Originally posted by pritybetta
Where in the book of Ruth does it say she lead a congragation?
okay probably not the best example, I was just trying to show that women are viewd in a positive light.
A better example would be Judges capters 4-5 deborah led the people of israel, and she was a prophitess; The apostle paul also had help from women. Pricilla (wife of Aquilla) for example.

if you interpret the bible with a preconcieved viewpoint, then you may miss out on some of the things God is trying to show you

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Originally posted by kmax87
It would seem that if your society is going to embrace the right to bear arms, it should also embrace the right for everyone in that society to be educated and show competence in the use of those firearms.

Just like we expect every citizen to be able to get a licence and be able to drive a car in a law abiding manner.
Amen to that! Well said. 🙂

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Originally posted by pritybetta
Women were not forbided to be proclaimers, only not to speak in a church where there is a congragation. If they are not to speak in a church then they should not be leading a congragation.
The women's liberation movement just passed you by like a train, didn't it?
Are you happy being the subservient woman? Being a woman, I suppose
you're excused. But do you have any right telling other women what they
can and cannot do?

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Originally posted by duecer
okay probably not the best example, I was just trying to show that women are viewd in a positive light.
A better example would be Judges capters 4-5 deborah led the people of israel, and she was a prophitess; The apostle paul also had help from women. Pricilla (wife of Aquilla) for example.

if you interpret the bible with a preconcieved viewpoint, then you may miss out on some of the things God is trying to show you
I do think women can do God's work. I was only trying to point out that the Lord has set order for the churches/congregations and the home. If women want to teach the word of God to others they can if it is not in the setting of a congregation or having authority over her husband. Anything outside that can be debatable and I for one do not see anything wrong with it.

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