Go back
A Sellers' Market: Defective PPE

A Sellers' Market: Defective PPE

Debates

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
07 May 20

E

Joined
12 Jul 08
Moves
13814
Clock
07 May 20

Countries must have some industry for times like these. The extreme of free trade is not good for security.

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53321
Clock
07 May 20
1 edit

Wow, attitudes and platitudes but not one single suggestion of how to solve the problems.

Here are some of the fraud cases involving fake testing kits

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/03/coronavirus-fraud-fake-tests-bogus-cures-and-vaccines-take-root/5112827002/

There is a new one in Utah where this dude who knew nothing about science started an email scheme to bilk Utah, Nebraska and Iowa out of near 50 MILLION in no bid contracts for these fake test kits that strangely enough showed HALF the positives of real test kits. Trump and the rest of the republican fraudsters jumped on that one REAL fast and they also stopped anyone from actually reading the contracts, so even the scientists involved in the original studies, who BTW were VOLUNTEERING their services for free, told to stop work immediately, forgetaboutit. Go home nothing to see here.

Really GREAT god king you got there.

E

Joined
12 Jul 08
Moves
13814
Clock
07 May 20

I gave the solution. Make it yourself even if it costs more.

s
Fast and Curious

slatington, pa, usa

Joined
28 Dec 04
Moves
53321
Clock
07 May 20

@Eladar
That's your MO, obfuscate, deflect, misrepresent or if that doesn't work, outright lie. JUST LIKE YOUR GOD KING.

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
08 May 20

wolfgang59
Quiz Master

RHP Arms

Joined
09 Jun 07
Moves
48794
Clock
08 May 20

@eladar said
Countries must have some industry for times like these. The extreme of free trade is not good for security.
Or you could see that we are all dependant on each other.
Wouldn't that be nice?

wolfgang59
Quiz Master

RHP Arms

Joined
09 Jun 07
Moves
48794
Clock
08 May 20

@eladar said
I gave the solution. Make it yourself even if it costs more.
And we all thought you were for free market economics!

E

Joined
12 Jul 08
Moves
13814
Clock
08 May 20

@wolfgang59 said
Or you could see that we are all dependant on each other.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Seeing as you live in a little country with no real need for self defense thanks to the US, I can see where you are coming from.

But if you need to be able to handle emergencies, then you need the resources and industry.

E

Joined
12 Jul 08
Moves
13814
Clock
08 May 20

@wolfgang59 said
And we all thought you were for free market economics!
You are wrong.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
08 May 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

@eladar said
Seeing as you live in a little country with no real need for self defense thanks to the US, I can see where you are coming from.

But if you need to be able to handle emergencies, then you need the resources and industry.
This is the shameful legacy of Trump.

Everyone now thinks it's okay to be an arrogant blowhard.

D
Losing the Thread

Quarantined World

Joined
27 Oct 04
Moves
87415
Clock
08 May 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

The post that was quoted here has been removed
I don't know about the specific case of the Turkish shipment, but I saw someone on Facebook who appeared to be involved in the shipments say pretty much the same thing. Under normal condition's you identify a need, contact companies and ask for samples, select a vendor and place the order, check the order and then pay. Now they're finding themselves paying for stuff sight unseen and half of it isn't fit for purpose.

The specific problem Britain's got is that successive governments have allowed the manufacturing sector to languish, confident in the notion that they'll always be able to buy whatever can't be locally produced on international markets. Even allowing for the structural problem they'd have been o.k. had they kept the pandemic emergency stocks of medical equipment up. But years of austerity - which haven't reduced the debt - meant that there's a huge shortage of medical equipment generally and PPE specifically.

The result of this is that every error they make, and errors are going to happen, is magnified out of proportion. They can't do a massive amount of complaining about it for fear of alienating vendors who they're reliant on. Add to that their ridiculous aversion to ever admit to the slightest mistake and they're doing anything they can to deflect blame - to the point of complaining about nurses overusing the equipment.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.