@no1marauder saidI’m missing something here? SCOTUS simply sent it to the states to decide. They didn’t rule on the right to bodily autonomy, or did they?
The right to bodily autonomy.
@AverageJoe1
You are one cynical SOB. You know full well giving it back to states means THOUSANDS of women will go to back alley 'abortionists' and a lot of them will die just like in the 19th century but no problem for you.
And there are states pursuing laws to make abortion illegal even for rape and incest but you don't profess to believe that either and I don't for a SECOND believe you on that, you follow the news and you know good and well what is going on in those red states.
You also don't give a rats ass if we actually lose our democracy either so that puts you squarely in ZOMBIE territory, total belief in anything Trump pukes at you and ANY dem POTUS can NEVER make it as SO GOOD as it was under Trump even though those close to him like Cassidy saw up close and personal what was going on and OF COURSE your OTHER zombie buddies just say she is lying UNDER OATH.
Anyone defending Trump UNDER OATH would be OBVIOUSLY not lying according to your zombie buddies.
@sonhouse saidGolly Sonhouse. All I said was what the court did. I could not have been more clear, nor more simple. I don't know what your opinion about the future of man has to do with it. You seem upset. You seem to be pleading the case.? I cant tell.
@AverageJoe1
You are one cynical SOB. You know full well giving it back to states means THOUSANDS of women will go to back alley 'abortionists' and a lot of them will die just like in the 19th century but no problem for you.
And there are states pursuing laws to make abortion illegal even for rape and incest but you don't profess to believe that either and I don't for a SE ...[text shortened]... H.
Anyone defending Trump UNDER OATH would be OBVIOUSLY not lying according to your zombie buddies.
All I said was what the court did (you can read that fact in the papers, ), and here you are telling me I am a cynical SOB. What in the world? It has nothing to do with me.
All I said was what the court did. Sonhouse??
@AverageJoe1
And completely deny red states are attempting to pass laws making abortion illegal for ANY reason even though you know good and well that is EXACTLY what is happening in those zombie states.
BTW, it IS a witch hunt because your ex POTUS IS a witch, or worse, absolute traitor to the constitution and his oath to protect Americans which clearly he wasn't and didn't, GET RID OF THE MAGS tells that tale as clearly as anything Trump has done, but OF COURSE you would never believe Trump KNEW there were AR15's among the crowd not going through the Mags, that was shown in video's CLEAR images of dudes with those weapons on waistbands but you would NEVER dare to look at any of those video's because it might show just how much of a TRAITOR your so called leader is.
You OH SO CLEVERLY avoid going to stations or reading real news so you can keep your head firmly in the sand going NYA NYA NYA I can't hear you since you don't WANT to know the truth, that way you can keep up the fantasy that things were SO much better under the corrupt 'leadership' of a petulant man with the brain of a 15 year old throwing tantrums when he doesn't get his way.
@sonhouse saidWith all due respects, Shouse, I just cant read that stuff. You hate Trump, we know, you want him caught, and further, you actually predict the future. What if I wrote what I think happened, or why I think someone did something, or what I think will happen in the future, and throwing the word democracy around so much that we don't even know what it means. And apparently, conservatives have a different def of democracy. We do not even understand when you write 'Repubs just want power!" So do dems, slanthead. Whew. Just trying to be helpful.
@AverageJoe1
And completely deny red states are attempting to pass laws making abortion illegal for ANY reason even though you know good and well that is EXACTLY what is happening in those zombie states.
BTW, it IS a witch hunt because your ex POTUS IS a witch, or worse, absolute traitor to the constitution and his oath to protect Americans which clearly he wasn't and didn ...[text shortened]... ip' of a petulant man with the brain of a 15 year old throwing tantrums when he doesn't get his way.
@averagejoe1 saidAnd, I note that your post here does not respond to my post , not in any way. Next time you write a poignant post, which mine was, I am going to answer about how I did not like the attitude of the new guy I played golf with today, I want him kicked out of the club!!! You don't care about him, and I don't care about Trump. zzzzzzzzzz
Golly Sonhouse. All I said was what the court did. I could not have been more clear, nor more simple. I don't know what your opinion about the future of man has to do with it. You seem upset. You seem to be pleading the case.? I cant tell.
All I said was what the court did (you can read that fact in the papers, ), and here you are telling me I am a cynical SOB. What in the world? It has nothing to do with me.
All I said was what the court did. Sonhouse??
@averagejoe1 saidYes, they ruled women didn't have such a right because men only State legislatures in the 1800s didn't think they did.
I’m missing something here? SCOTUS simply sent it to the states to decide. They didn’t rule on the right to bodily autonomy, or did they?
The State has no business ordering someone to give birth against their wishes. It's hard to imagine a worse violation of bodily autonomy.
@averagejoe1 saidyou are missing quite a lot, all the time.
I’m missing something here? SCOTUS simply sent it to the states to decide. They didn’t rule on the right to bodily autonomy, or did they?
yes, the craven maggots that overturned Roe v Wade did send it to the states. "Simply". As in , "simply" let all the red states enact the anti-abortion laws they wanted to since forever, some being trigger laws waiting precisely for roe v wade to be overturned. "Simply" pave the way for a future nation wide abortion ban. Just like they knew damn well would happen
@averagejoe1 said"We do not even understand when you write 'Repubs just want power!" "
With all due respects, Shouse, I just cant read that stuff. You hate Trump, we know, you want him caught, and further, you actually predict the future. What if I wrote what I think happened, or why I think someone did something, or what I think will happen in the future, and throwing the word democracy around so much that we don't even know what it means. And apparen ...[text shortened]... en you write 'Repubs just want power!" So do dems, slanthead. Whew. Just trying to be helpful.
Did you cheer when McConnell prevented Obama from appointing a supreme court judge? Did you cheer when McConnell appointed a judge with like a month left in Trump's presidency?
If yes, you might now have an idea why everyone says republicans just want power. No rules, no morality, no decency.
@no1marauder saidWomen can go to a different state to get an abortion, right?
Yes, they ruled women didn't have such a right because men only State legislatures in the 1800s didn't think they did.
The State has no business ordering someone to give birth against their wishes. It's hard to imagine a worse violation of bodily autonomy.
Are democrats upset over an inconvenience of travel? It is a deterrence at most.
Isn't this a fake distraction from price fixing fuel and throwing money at Ukraine? Obama and Biden could have prevented all of this. Right? Democrats need to blame their own leaders. They played you all.
https://rumble.com/v1a9ip5-obama-and-biden-lied-about-codifying-roe-v-wade.html
@averagejoe1 saidYeah they did though they ruled that there was no constitutional right to bodily autonomy.
I’m missing something here? SCOTUS simply sent it to the states to decide. They didn’t rule on the right to bodily autonomy, or did they?
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@averagejoe1 saidThat persona hasn't worked for years. You're not Cletus. You're not even Boss Hogg. You're not even Scarlett O'Hara, though you're closer to her than to Cletus or Boss Hogg.
Golly
@mott-the-hoople saidIt's a basic, Natural Right. In some sense, the most basic of all rights; the State should have no power to interfere with decisions you make regarding your own body and its contents (unless such decisions interfere with others' rights).
direct me to that one, I cant find it
but, does that apply to certain people only? those outside the womb only?
Not even the Dobbs majority was willing to assert that the unborn had any rights.