Go back

"Abraham Lincoln's 'Gettysburg Address'...."

Debates

Vote Up
Vote Down

"Abraham Lincoln's 'Gettysburg Address' on the 150th Anniversary -- Full Text" Nov. 19. 2013, ABC News

PHOTO: Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865), the 16th President of the United States of America.

"Of the five known copies of the "Gettysburg Address" in Abraham Lincoln's handwriting (all a little different), this version named after Col. Alexander Bliss has been the most often produced in the 150 years since Lincoln signed and dated it, according to abrahamlincolnonline.org. Here is the full text:"

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract.

The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." --- Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 19, 1863

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abraham-lincolns-gettysburg-address-150th-anniversary-full-text/story?id=20928973

Vote Up
Vote Down

What is the debate Gramps?


Originally posted by whodey
What is the debate Gramps?
How about whether the US govt is still of, by, and for the People?

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Sleepyguy
How about whether the US govt is still of, by, and for the People?
Or how about Obama omitting the phrase "under God" from his reading of the speech? Rewriting Lincoln now - some hubris, eh?

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Sleepyguy
How about whether the US govt is still of, by, and for the People?
If you agree with the SCOTUS that corporations are people than you should say yes. Otherwise the answer is no.

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by caissad4
If you agree with the SCOTUS that corporations are people than you should say yes. Otherwise the answer is no.
I hate when people say SCOTUS, POTUS, AND FLOTUS.

But otherwise, you're correct.

EDIT: Some more fun acronyms. Let's play a game.

VPOTUS - easy...
TOTUS - Treasury of the United States
WOTUS - Weather of the United States
NYYOTUS - New York Yankees of the United States
GASMOTUS - Geologic and Seimologic Map of the United States
MROTUS - Mountain Ranges of the United States
SOTUS - States of the United States

Join the fun! See how many fun, funny acronyms YOU can come up with!

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sasquatch672
Or how about Obama omitting the phrase "under God" from his reading of the speech? Rewriting Lincoln now - some hubris, eh?
Leaving that out, is strange, it is history! I saw many people questioned
on what party Lincoln was in while he was alive, I was shocked that so
many didn't know the answer to that either. What are our children in this
country being taught?
Kelly

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Has the US ever stuck to that proposition? There is still widespread discrimination against homosexuals and foreigners in the laws.


Originally posted by sasquatch672
Or how about Obama omitting the phrase "under God" from his reading of the speech? Rewriting Lincoln now - some hubris, eh?
Not all manuscripts of the address have the phrase 'under god' in them. Neither the Nicholas copy nor the Hay copy have it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Address#Five_manuscripts

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by twhitehead
Has the US ever stuck to that proposition? There is still widespread discrimination against homosexuals and foreigners in the laws.
What laws might those be?

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Sleepyguy
How about whether the US govt is still of, by, and for the People?
No, no, when Obama was elected he promised we could keep our country.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by Sleepyguy
How about whether the US govt is still of, by, and for the People?
They did so then neither more nor less than they do now. The railroad and banking interests effectively owned the government then, just as major corporations own it now. The Constitution was specifically designed, not to foster democracy, but to check it. It was designed to prevent the democratic will of the people from seriously interfering with the ability of the financial elite from effectively ruling the country. What we have today is not an aberration of what the founding fathers had in mind, but a direct outgrowth of it, although they would probably be shocked by the scope and scale of it.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by caissad4
If you agree with the SCOTUS that corporations are people than you should say yes. Otherwise the answer is no.
Shut up and go by your corporate mandated health care!! 😠

The corpor....er.....um......the people have spoken.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sasquatch672
I hate when people say SCOTUS, POTUS, AND FLOTUS.

But otherwise, you're correct.

EDIT: Some more fun acronyms. Let's play a game.

VPOTUS - easy...
TOTUS - Treasury of the United States
WOTUS - Weather of the United States
NYYOTUS - New York Yankees of the United States
GASMOTUS - Geologic and Seimologic Map of the United States
MROT ...[text shortened]... es of the United States

Join the fun! See how many fun, funny acronyms YOU can come up with!
Southern Carolina Republicans of the United States


Originally posted by sasquatch672
I hate when people say SCOTUS, POTUS, AND FLOTUS.

But otherwise, you're correct.

EDIT: Some more fun acronyms. Let's play a game.

VPOTUS - easy...
TOTUS - Treasury of the United States
WOTUS - Weather of the United States
NYYOTUS - New York Yankees of the United States
GASMOTUS - Geologic and Seimologic Map of the United States
MROT ...[text shortened]... es of the United States

Join the fun! See how many fun, funny acronyms YOU can come up with!
I thought POTUS and TOTUS were the same thing.

Teleprompter Of The United States