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The UK has just passed some new adoption laws, now allowing non-married and gay couples to adopt. What are people views on this?

My personal view is that this is taking equal rights and political correctness too far. Surely if people want to adopt, they should be willing to get married to show how committed they are to the process?

I also feel that gay couples should not be allowed to adopt as I believe that a child put up for adoption should be placed in a home with both a mother and father figure. Also a child may not be comfortable growing up in a same-sex relationship 'family'.

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Originally posted by welsharnie
The UK has just passed some new adoption laws, now allowing non-married and gay couples to adopt. What are people views on this?

My personal view is that this is taking equal rights and political correctness too far. Surely if people want to adopt, they should be willing to get married to show how committed they are to the process?

I also feel that ...[text shortened]... er figure. Also a child may not be comfortable growing up in a same-sex relationship 'family'.
i agree.

The law wanted updating to make it easier to trace adoptees.

But watch what happens if a peadophile gets into the system.

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Originally posted by welsharnie
The UK has just passed some new adoption laws, now allowing non-married and gay couples to adopt. What are people views on this?

My personal view is that this is taking equal rights and political correctness too far. Surely if people want to adopt, they should be willing to get married to show how committed they are to the process?

I also feel that ...[text shortened]... er figure. Also a child may not be comfortable growing up in a same-sex relationship 'family'.
Also a child may not be comfortable growing up in a same-sex relationship 'family'.

That is absurd. Homophobia is a learned behavior, children aren't born with it. If they're brought up in a tolerant family, they will be comfortable with that situation.

I'm all for this law. It shows what a progressive country the UK is. Especially in relation to some other morally regressive countries (who shall remain nameless).

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Originally posted by welsharnie
The UK has just passed some new adoption laws, now allowing non-married and gay couples to adopt. What are people views on this?

My personal view is that this is taking equal rights and political correctness too far. Surely if people want to adopt, they should be willing to get married to show how committed they are to the process?

I also feel that ...[text shortened]... er figure. Also a child may not be comfortable growing up in a same-sex relationship 'family'.
I think it is perfectly OK for gay/lesbian couples to adopt. I've known some who have and they make fine parents. We must remember that some of the children up for adoption are up for adoption for a reason. Some have been abused, neglected in their heterosexual family of origin.

Here's my question. What makes the sexual preference of a gay/lesbian couple the standard by which to judge their parenting skills? Does it hold that sexual preferences of a straight couple should be an issue as well?

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I am not entirely sure, but the UK doesn't allow gay marriage, correct? If that is the case, then how would same-sex couples ever have children. These people did not wake up one morning and decide to like those of the same gender. They did not choose this, so why should they suffer the consequences of not being able to raise offspring. As well, I am sure that children who are still young and not immovably set in their opinions would love to have parents who are there for them, even ones of the same sex.
If the UK does allow same-sex marriages, why should they be denied the rights to have children like any other normal couple.
To cap off, the benefits for the children alone, to have a family, and grow up with loving parents who care for them outweigh the risk that they have a wierd feeling at first because they have 2 moms or 2 dads.

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Originally posted by celticcountry
i agree.

The law wanted updating to make it easier to trace adoptees.

But watch what happens if a peadophile gets into the system.
How can you say that pedophiles are inclusive to gays and lesbians? There are many more pedophiles in the world who are heterosexual than there are ones homosexual.

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i checked my post.

I cant see where I tpyed in what You claim I typed in.

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Originally posted by prosoccer
I am not entirely sure, but the UK doesn't allow gay marriage, correct? If that is the case, then how would same-sex couples ever have children. These people did not wake up one morning and decide to like those of the same gender. They did not choose this, so why should they suffer the consequences of not being able to raise offspring. As well, I am sur ...[text shortened]... outweigh the risk that they have a wierd feeling at first because they have 2 moms or 2 dads.
They call them civil partnerships in the UK, apparently. Elton John and his significant other (Canadian filmmaker David Furnish) were wed recently.

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The part where you said, "Watch if pe'a'dophiles get into the system", or something to that effect.

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Originally posted by prosoccer
I am not entirely sure, but the UK doesn't allow gay marriage, correct? If that is the case, then how would same-sex couples ever have children. These people did not wake up one morning and decide to like those of the same gender. They did not choose this, so why should they suffer the consequences of not being able to raise offspring. As well, I am sur ...[text shortened]... outweigh the risk that they have a wierd feeling at first because they have 2 moms or 2 dads.
Okay then, maybe if there is no other option than an orphanage, then allowing a child to be fostered by a gay couple should be accepted. However, I do not believe they should be given preference over a straight couple, unless there are doubts over the suitability of the straight couple.

Yes, it is not a choice to be gay, but by having a replationship with someone of the same sex, they make it impossible to have children themselves, so you can't just turn around and say they can adopt because they can't have children naturally. (This is NOT the same as allowing heterosexual couples who cannot have children to adopt, as these people are unable to have children through unfortunate biological conditions in their body.)

The UK allows same-sex PARTNERSHIPS, not marriages. Marriage is between a man and woman only, and that is how it should stay.

Before anyone asks, I am not homophobic; I may disagree with what they do, but I do not take a dislike to people if I find out they are gay.

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Originally posted by rwingett
[b]Also a child may not be comfortable growing up in a same-sex relationship 'family'.

That is absurd. Homophobia is a learned behavior, children aren't born with it. If they're brought up in a tolerant family, they will be comfortable with that situation.

I'm all for this law. It shows what a progressive country the UK is. Especially in relation to some other morally regressive countries (who shall remain nameless).[/b]
Feeling uncomfortable in a situation is completely different to disliking people based on their sexual preference.

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Originally posted by celticcountry
But watch what happens if a peadophile gets into the system.
Uncork yourself dude.

Any peadophile worth his weight in kiddie testicles will attempt to come across as "normal" as possible.

So, gay marriage isn't going to increase the percentage of child abuse in the adoptive arena.

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Single people have been allowed to adopt in the UK for quite a while now.

Here in Brighton many gay singletons have adopted children. The partner of the official guardian has had ambiguious legal rights and responsibilities. The changes in law this week were sensible and practical in reviewing their status.

Your sexuality or marital status has no bearing on how good a parent you will be.

Welsharnie.. you might not think you are homophobic, but you are certainly narrowed minded.

Celtic.. mixing paedophillia into this debate is also showing underlined prejudice.

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Originally posted by invigorate
Single people have been allowed to adopt in the UK for quite a while now.

Here in Brighton many gay singletons have adopted children. The partner of the official guardian has had ambiguious legal rights and responsibilities. The changes in law this week were sensible and practical in reviewing their status.

Your sexuality or marital status has no be ...[text shortened]... d minded.

Celtic.. mixing paedophillia into this debate is also showing underlined prejudice.
I never implied that gay people would make worse parents. I think that adoption of a child by a homosexual couple is preferable to a child being in an orphanage or adoption by a clearly unsuitable heterosexual couple.

I still believe, however, that if there is a case of there being 2 suitable couples who can a child, one couple being gay, the other straight, then the straight couple should adopt the child. I simply believe that children would benefit more from being brought up by a mother and a father.

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Originally posted by invigorate
Celtic.. mixing paedophillia into this debate is also showing underlined prejudice.
I agree. I say we leave the Catholic priests out of this.

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