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Many Americans argue that the reason for invading Iraq was to save people from Saddam. Over 20,000 people are now dead there.

What if the billions of dollars spent on the invasion and ongoing occupation had been directed against against the AIDS epidemic instead - imagine if all that money was spent on subsidising the cost of medicine, education and contraceptives ?

Millions of people could have been saved ... instead of America simply sustaining its oil habit a bit longer.

http://aids.about.com/cs/aidsfactsheets/a/african.htm

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Originally posted by STANG
Many Americans argue that the reason for invading Iraq was to save people from Saddam. Over 20,000 people are now dead there.

What if the billions of dollars spent on the invasion and ongoing occupation had been directed against against the AIDS epidemic instead - imagine if all that money was spent on subsidising the cost of medicine, education and contrac ...[text shortened]... sustaining its oil habit a bit longer.

http://aids.about.com/cs/aidsfactsheets/a/african.htm
Stang's postgraduate internet course in "The Art of Pontification" continues...

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Originally posted by STANG
Many Americans argue that the reason for invading Iraq was to save people from Saddam...
If you had a better understanding about the American Leadership you might be able to work out that the 'reason' the Americans invaded Iraq was to save many millions from being killed by possible WMD's. Although it may have turned out that no WMD's have been found yet it's possible they were destroyed or hidden. Even if neither of these are true, the evidence at the time was strong enough for the people in charge to choose to invade Iraq...

Getting oil, the only reason some 'idiots' can make up as to why the Americans invaded Iraq.

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Originally posted by davoo
If you had a better understanding about the American Leadership you might be able to work out that the 'reason' the Americans invaded Iraq was to save many millions from being killed by possible WMD's. Although it may have turned out that no WMD's have been found yet it's possible they were destroyed or hidden. Even if neither of these are true, the evidence a ...[text shortened]... ting oil, the only reason some 'idiots' can make up as to why the Americans invaded Iraq.
America invaded Iraq on false grounds. They didn't invade any other dictatorship. They knew for a fact about other countries with WMD (North Korea to name one), but those were never an issue for the US. No WMDs could be find in Iraq, and there were no evidence pointing to the even remote possibility of finding such weapons there (as I understand it now).

No, the fact is clear. Post-facto, it's obvious what was the real reason for invading Iraq. To say otherwise is to close your eyes and deny it, allowing for things like this to happen again and again.

"Wake up! wake up! wake up! wake up!
Wake up! wake up! wake up! wake up!"
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(I really don't like STANGs methods of constant repetition, but he's right in that the whole Iraq fiasko really shouldn't have been allowed to happen like it did.)

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Originally posted by davoo
If you had a better understanding about the American Leadership you might be able to work out that the 'reason' the Americans invaded Iraq was to save many millions from being killed by possible WMD's. Although it may have turned out that no WMD's have been found yet it's possible they were destroyed or hidden. Even if neither of these are true, the evidence a ...[text shortened]... ting oil, the only reason some 'idiots' can make up as to why the Americans invaded Iraq.
The question also concerned AIDS.

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Originally posted by davoo
If you had a better understanding about the American Leadership you might be able to work out that the 'reason' the Americans invaded Iraq was to save many millions from being killed by possible WMD's. Although it may have turned out that no WMD's have been found yet it's possible they were destroyed or hidden. Even if neither of these are true, the evidence a ...[text shortened]... ting oil, the only reason some 'idiots' can make up as to why the Americans invaded Iraq.
So you fell for the Bush adminstration's fancy PowerPoint presentation.

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Originally posted by STANG
Many Americans argue that the reason for invading Iraq was to save people from Saddam. Over 20,000 people are now dead there.

What if the billions of dollars spent on the invasion and ongoing occupation had been directed against against the AIDS epidemic instead - imagine if all that money was spent on subsidising the cost of medicine, education and contrac ...[text shortened]... sustaining its oil habit a bit longer.

http://aids.about.com/cs/aidsfactsheets/a/african.htm
lets see....since there is a virus that the U.S. already spends more on than any other country we should not go about defending ourselves in a war on terrorism. That is the kind of absurd logic you seem to use daily. Thankfully, stang, your opinions share a vast minority in America.

p.s. and as far as the war for oil thing....not even the neaderthols in the far left use that accusation. You don't even hear Ted Kennedy saying that. But the brillance of Stang shines through.

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Originally posted by davoo
If you had a better understanding about the American Leadership you might be able to work out that the 'reason' the Americans invaded Iraq was to save many millions from being killed by possible WMD's. Although it may have turned out that no WMD's have been found yet it's possible they were destroyed or hidden. Even if neither of these are true, the evidence a ...[text shortened]... ting oil, the only reason some 'idiots' can make up as to why the Americans invaded Iraq.
Behind the times mate. GWB has already admitted he knew (as Mr Blix rightly said, before he was murdered in that documentary 'Team America' I watched) that there WERE no WMD in Iraq, BEFORE he ordered the invasion.

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Originally posted by STANG
So you fell for the Bush adminstration's fancy PowerPoint presentation.
I don't like George Bush but still don't think he invaded Iraq for oil more people have lived because of no Saddam than have died in the war... idiot

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Behind the times mate. GWB has already admitted he knew (as Mr Blix rightly said, before he was murdered in that documentary 'Team America' I watched) that there WERE no WMD in Iraq, BEFORE he ordered the invasion.
Yer and I'm sure you also believe what they say in the thunderbirds... How old are you??? like 10...

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Originally posted by davoo
Yer and I'm sure you also believe what they say in the thunderbirds... How old are you??? like 10...
The Blix part was a joke, but G - dubya, has admitted he knew there were no WMD. Go to this website

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041007-6.html

Of course, it has the usual polemic about 'Saddam wanted to do it' but, importantly, the first line states it all - Saddam had no WMD.

here's another one,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4528982.stm

Also look up both Dr Hans Blix (UN chief weapons inspector in Iraq) and Dr David Kelly (UK MOD WMD defense analyst), both stated unequivocally that Saddam had no WMD before the war. DK died for it.

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Originally posted by davoo
I don't like George Bush but still don't think he invaded Iraq for oil more people have lived because of no Saddam than have died in the war... idiot
The question also concerned AIDS.

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Originally posted by STANG
The question also concerned AIDS.
Lets see.

I will entertain your hypothesis.

GWB has billions of "saved" dollars to spend on exclusively on AIDS.
GWB encourages the world to abstain from sex unless they are married.
GWB thinks that this message will change peoples promiscuious ways
GWB allows his Christian dogma to blind him from balanced decisions.

Whether that is stealing Iraq's oil or master minding the fight against AIDS.

Christianity is wrong. GWB is wrong. Fortunately he believes in an after life so he will punished then.

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Originally posted by invigorate
Lets see.

I will entertain your hypothesis.

GWB has billions of "saved" dollars to spend on exclusively on AIDS.
GWB encourages the world to abstain from sex unless they are married.
GWB thinks that this message will change peoples promiscuious ways
GWB allows his Christian dogma to blind him from balanced decisions.

Whether that is stealing ...[text shortened]... ty is wrong. GWB is wrong. Fortunately he believes in an after life so he will punished then.
Gets a grin and a rec from me, Vig.

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Originally posted by invigorate
Lets see.

I will entertain your hypothesis.

GWB has billions of "saved" dollars to spend on exclusively on AIDS.
GWB encourages the world to abstain from sex unless they are married.
GWB thinks that this message will change peoples promiscuious ways
GWB allows his Christian dogma to blind him from balanced decisions.

Whether that is stealing ...[text shortened]... ty is wrong. GWB is wrong. Fortunately he believes in an after life so he will punished then.
You missed the bit about subsidising the cost of medicine, education and contraceptives - which wouldn't require billions of dollars.

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