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@shavixmir saidThe American southwest. Phoenix, Arizona is in the middle, well the northern edge of, the Sonoran desert. And yes, the climate is dry, and hot AF. We're at 33 degrees north latitude, so not nearly as far north as Netherlands or UK. I never see snow unless I travel to a higher altitude, like Flagstaff.
Christ, where do you live?
In the Netherlands the average temperatures are between 1°c and 24°c.
We’re in a heatwave now 35°c and these are rare.
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@Soothfast saidQuote "What I can't stand is being in a building in the summer that's air conditioned at 20°C. That's ridiculously cold."
It's probably down to humidity. In a cold climate, getting a house up to 25°C in winter results in very low humidity, whereas in the summer the same house might be at 25°C but have high humidity.
I think 25°C is pretty nice in a house at night during summer, and don't really mind 27°C in the daytime. Fans, especially ceiling fans ("ventilators"?) are the way to go, with ...[text shortened]... stand is being in a building in the summer that's air conditioned at 20°C. That's ridiculously cold.
20c is cold; the industry standard indicates 22c is a fair and sensible temperature for an office. (in Australia)
An old office manageress of a firm I used to work at would turn the a/c to 30c in the mornings to warm the place up but never below 22c even on the hottest days (Sydney)
We men HAD to wear collar and tie and the girls came in in their light blouses; the arguments over temperature were never ending - a poor working environment at its worst.
I think a/c for heating and cooling is fantastic, but idiots who don't understand the fundamentals bugger it up by going to extreme settings without realising it can take (depending on the room size) anything from 10 minutes to an hour to adjust either up or down.
Down here in Tasmania 18.5c warms the house nicely before we get up in the winter mornings and on a scorching hot day in summer 25c cold cools the house down nicely.
Teaching how to properly use an a/c unit should be taught in school as far as money management is concerned - people waste a fortune with their extreme temperature settings.
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@Soothfast said130 on a motorway with all windows open is driving at it’s second best!
When driving about town by myself, usually the temperature outside has to get above 85 F before I consider closing the windows and turning on the AC. At highway speeds I always close the windows, no matter the temperature, on account of the noise and aerodynamic drag.
The best being all windows open, around the Alps and inner roads of France.
@shavixmir saidI was immersed in this about a week ago. You gotta watch this. I found it fascinating.
130 on a motorway with all windows open is driving at it’s second best!
The best being all windows open, around the Alps and inner roads of France.
More than an hour of this dude extolling the virtues of ceiling fans, the way they were originally designed and manufactured. And yes, I probably dont have much of a life.
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@shavixmir saidAre ceiling fans really called ceiling ventilators in the Netherlands?
I’ve lived in some pretty warm countries: Israel, India, Scotland and Thailand, for example.
And I love ceiling ventilators. They always cool me down enough, without upsetting my balance with the temperature outside.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gyqldl3p5o
Big discussion in France between the Greens and the Right-wing parties.
Now, my wife is a left-wing ...[text shortened]... headache.
So, ventilators are my thing.
What do you all think? Vents or airco? Which is better?
Well, I guess I can answer my own question by looking up the translation in Dutch:
"ceiling" --> "plafond"
"ceiling fan" --> "plafondventilator"
Okay. So never plafondwan, with wan meaning fan?
I find this curious only because I tend to think of a ventilation system as being something that introduces fresh air into a space, and doesn't just stir around the air that's already there.
Human languages. So fraught with illogical quirks.
@Soothfast saidYup. So in English it’s a ceiling fan.
Are ceiling fans really called ceiling ventilators in the Netherlands?
Well, I guess I can answer my own question by looking up the translation in Dutch:
"ceiling" --> "plafond"
"ceiling fan" --> "plafondventilator"
Okay. So never plafondwan, with wan meaning fan?
I find this curious only because I tend to think of a ventilation system as bei ...[text shortened]... just stir around the air that's already there.
Human languages. So fraught with illogical quirks.
Damn, I’m turning native!
@vivify saidPigs have air-conditioning in many Chinese farms. I guess the pig is worth more than the typical Frenchman.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/europe/france-records-excess-deaths-record-breaking-heatwave-rcna352098
France records 1,000 excess deaths during record-breaking heatwave
That's insane.