14 Aug 06
If we are forced to adopt, permanently, security measures similar to those that have been adopted at Heathrow (so we only can take essential documents on to our flights), how much of a hardship is it really?
I mean, they could have mobile libraries in flight (apparantly Air Korea have something like that) and surely people can go a flight without their laptop?
I think it is a small price to pay and might be a positive thing - people might interact more.
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by davidtravellingThe last people in the world I wish to interact with are the retards sitting next to me on a flight (or bus or train etc.).
If we are forced to adopt, permanently, security measures similar to those that have been adopted at Heathrow (so we only can take essential documents on to our flights), how much of a hardship is it really?
I mean, they could have mobile libraries in flight (apparantly Air Korea have something like that) and surely people can go a flight without ...[text shortened]...
I think it is a small price to pay and might be a positive thing - people might interact more.
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by davidtravellingWell given that they have downgraded the security again so you can take hand luggage, I'm not sure there's much to debate.
If we are forced to adopt, permanently, security measures similar to those that have been adopted at Heathrow (so we only can take essential documents on to our flights), how much of a hardship is it really?
I mean, they could have mobile libraries in flight (apparantly Air Korea have something like that) and surely people can go a flight without ...[text shortened]...
I think it is a small price to pay and might be a positive thing - people might interact more.
Having said that, the long haul flights would be OK as are the really short hops but it's the 4 to 5 hour flights that can get really dull without a PSP for watching a movie or a book or something.
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by Wheelyi remember hearing a few years back that there was a threat that terrorists could make bombs in flight using materials hidden in their washbags. thats what originally got me thinking about this. I genuinely dont see the problem if we all take a minimal amount of stuff on the flight with us - maybe we would be allowed one book as well, surely thats enough?
Well given that they have downgraded the security again so you can take hand luggage, I'm not sure there's much to debate.
Having said that, the long haul flights would be OK as are the really short hops but it's the 4 to 5 hour flights that can get really dull without a PSP for watching a movie or a book or something.
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by davidtravellingI am willing to travel in just a bannana hammock if that will make y'all feel more secure. Sadly, we are all vunerable to attack given a properly motivated terrorist with no desire to survive the attack. Its always been puzzling to me as to why planes are continual targets when there are so many other poorly guarded targets of opportunity. Its only a matter of time before They get smart and dedicate themselves to a program of long term social disruption rather than the single 'Big Event'.
If we are forced to adopt, permanently, security measures similar to those that have been adopted at Heathrow (so we only can take essential documents on to our flights), how much of a hardship is it really?
I mean, they could have mobile libraries in flight (apparantly Air Korea have something like that) and surely people can go a flight without ...[text shortened]...
I think it is a small price to pay and might be a positive thing - people might interact more.
The waste of it all...
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by WheelyYou recently thought fit to compare me to Norman Tebbit, which I rather regarded as a compliment.
Well given that they have downgraded the security again so you can take hand luggage, I'm not sure there's much to debate.
Having said that, the long haul flights would be OK as are the really short hops but it's the 4 to 5 hour flights that can get really dull without a PSP for watching a movie or a book or something.
Has it not occured to you that if politicians like Tebbit had been in charge of our affairs, rather than your fellow creeps like Toniblair, over the last 9 years we should not now be facing the threats imposed by a fanatic Islamic 5th column in our midst?j
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by XanthosNZCellulose compounds can be made extremely flammable and potentially explosive. A simple example would be nitrocellulose... basically flash paper or cellulose nitrate (celluloid) again very flammable. An otherwise normal looking book could, in reality, be made into a compressed directional explosive with minimal careful effort. Something this simple, coupled with impregnating your clothing with a flammable agent would cause a very significant fire. An effective detonator would be the most complex part of this assembly.
I didn't understand the book thing most of all. Hell you can flip through it and stick it through the X-ray if you want. What am I going to do with a paperback book? Read at people?
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by PhilodorIt wasn't meant to be a compliment or, indeed an insult but was merely an observation. I still think it's true too though I know Norman Tebbit even less than I know you.
You recently thought fit to compare me to Norman Tebbit, which I rather regarded as a compliment.
Has it not occured to you that if politicians like Tebbit had been in charge of our affairs, rather than your fellow creeps like Toniblair, over the last 9 years we should not now be facing the threats imposed by a fanatic Islamic 5th column in our midst?j
This sort of takes the thread off topic but I am not a supporter of Tony Blair and I'm not even a liberal democrat (before you jump to conclusions) but I don't think it would make any difference who was in power.
The seeds of the problems we face now have been sewn over many, many years in my view.
14 Aug 06
Originally posted by Hand of HecateWell if we're going to extremes could I not just have a layer of celluloid inside my jacket?
Cellulose compounds can be made extremely flammable and potentially explosive. A simple example would be nitrocellulose... basically flash paper or cellulose nitrate (celluloid) again very flammable. An otherwise normal looking book could, in reality, be made into a compressed directional explosive with minimal careful effort. Something this simple ...[text shortened]... very significant fire. An effective detonator would be the most complex part of this assembly.
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14 Aug 06
Originally posted by PhilodorWhy do you think this, the situation would be exactly the same. A Thatcher government would have been just as close to the Americans as the current Blair one, while the memebers of her cabinet (including Tebbit) would be just as weak and under thumb as the current Blair cabinet. Tebbit was to Thatcher just as Prescott is to Blair, a rough around the edges party man who gets the party troops into line.
You recently thought fit to compare me to Norman Tebbit, which I rather regarded as a compliment.
Has it not occured to you that if politicians like Tebbit had been in charge of our affairs, rather than your fellow creeps like Toniblair, over the last 9 years we should not now be facing the threats imposed by a fanatic Islamic 5th column in our midst?j
So I would suggest would you be as happy being compared to Prescott as you seem to be to Tebbit?
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14 Aug 06
Originally posted by davidtravellingIt depends on what you see air travel as. If its just a means of travel between short distances then it is no hardship. If you are taking your family on a four hour flight with very bored children it becomes quite an issue for you and the surrounding passengers. If travel all the time with business across the Altlantic or Europe and see the plane as an extension of your office then no laptop will mean lots of lost working hours. If you are travelling on a 24 hour flight to Australia or New Zealand I would consider it a hardship to have nothing but the back of a seat to pass the time.
If we are forced to adopt, permanently, security measures similar to those that have been adopted at Heathrow (so we only can take essential documents on to our flights), how much of a hardship is it really?
I mean, they could have mobile libraries in flight (apparantly Air Korea have something like that) and surely people can go a flight without ...[text shortened]...
I think it is a small price to pay and might be a positive thing - people might interact more.
Then again, if I was a air carrier and I had a new captive market to sell all my services to I might be a bit happier.
14 Aug 06
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Originally posted by WheelyYes of course, ever since our politicians refused to heed the warnings of Enoch Powell , and others 50 years ago regarding indiscriminate mass immigration from thos,e sources.
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The seeds of the problems we face now have been sewn over many, many years in my view.[/b]
However, the problems have been vastly exacerbated over the last 9 years since Blair allowed the fanatic mullahs amongst them to preach murder and mayhem in their mosques, thereby inciting weak=minded youths to become suicide bombers in the name of Allah.
The hook-handed lunatic off the Finsbury mosque, who is now in jail, was allowed to carry on in this fashion for over 7 years before he was stopped,by which time he had recruited at least one of the bombers who carried out the attacks in London.