Al-Qaeda attack in next 6 months

Originally posted by whodey
the Obama adiministration has decreed this as immenent and should be held accountable for such words.

Yep. If there isn't a mass slaughter attrocity in the next six months on the U.S. mainland, or one is prevented, whodey can lead the call for Obama to resign.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Why? Have you been watching 24 reruns?

I'm not advocating torture or anything else Jack Bauer might decide to do to raise the ratings for a TV show. All that would do is make the person more hostile, and it would only produce a lot of bogus information.

Nevertheless, the idea would be that if we catch someone in the act of, say, blowing up their underwear on an airplane, it might be a bad idea to start out by telling him all about his "right to remain silent".

We might need a different procedure when dealing with suspects that present a high likelihood of causing an additional major threat to others, or who might have information that could be used to prevent such danger.

Originally posted by Melanerpes
I'm not advocating torture or anything else Jack Bauer might decide to do to raise the ratings for a TV show. All that would do is make the person more hostile, and it would only produce a lot of bogus information.

Nevertheless, the idea would be that if we catch someone in the act of, say, blowing up their underwear on an airplane, it might be a bad i ...[text shortened]... or threat to others, or who might have information that could be used to prevent such danger.

What procedure do you suggest for criminals caught in the act of committing crimes?

Originally posted by no1marauder
What procedure do you suggest for criminals caught in the act of committing crimes?

They are not criminals! "enemy combatants"

Originally posted by utherpendragon
They are not criminals! "enemy combatants"

Every time I see the phrase "enemy combatants" there's an "unlawful" in front of it.

Originally posted by utherpendragon
They are not criminals! "enemy combatants"

I don't consider someone who goes abroad a plane with a bomb in his underwear (the example given) as a soldier like you do.

how many 6-month periods have there been since 9/11 when al-Qaeda WASN'T planning something big?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Every time I see the phrase "enemy combatants" there's an "unlawful" in front of it.

Enemy Combatants
Author:
William Haynes
December 12, 2002
Council on Foreign Relations
MEMORANDUM
To: Members of the ASIL-CFR Roundtable
From: William J. Haynes II, General Counsel of the Department of Defense
Subject: Enemy Combatants

There is no doubt that the attacks of September 11, 2001 constituted acts of war. They possessed the intensity and scale of war. They involved at least one military target, the Pentagon, and they came on the heels of a decade of attacks by al Qaida on U.S. military and civilian targets. Congress on September 18, 2001 authorized the President to use force in response to the attacks. And both the United Nations and NATO recognized that the attacks were “armed attacks” within the meaning of the UN Charter and NATO treaty. Since September 11th (and perhaps before then), we have been at war – both legally and in fact.
War implicates legal powers and rules that are not available during peacetime. Among other things, the war context gives the President the authority to detain enemy combatants at least until hostilities cease.

Enemy Combatant

An “enemy combatant” is an individual who, under the laws and customs of war, may be detained for the duration of an armed conflict. In the current conflict with al Qaida and the Taliban, the term includes a member, agent, or associate of al Qaida or the Taliban. In applying this definition, the United States government has acted consistently with the observation of the Supreme Court of the United States in Ex parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1, 37-38 (1942): “Citizens who associate themselves with the military arm of the enemy government, and with its aid, guidance and direction enter this country bent on hostile acts are enemy belligerents within the meaning of the Hague Convention and the law of war.”

“Enemy combatant” is a general category that subsumes two sub-categories: lawful and unlawful combatants. See Quirin, 317 U.S. at 37-38. Lawful combatants receive prisoner of war (POW) status and the protections of the Third Geneva Convention. Unlawful combatants do not receive POW status and do not receive the full protections of the Third Geneva Convention.

The President has determined that al Qaida members are unlawful combatants because (among other reasons) they are members of a non-state actor terrorist group that does not receive the protections of the Third Geneva Convention. He additionally determined that the Taliban detainees are unlawful combatants because they do not satisfy the criteria for POW status set out in Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention. Although the President’s determination on this issue is final, courts have concurred with his determination.

Originally posted by utherpendragon
[b]Enemy Combatants
Author:
William Haynes
December 12, 2002
Council on Foreign Relations
MEMORANDUM
To: Members of the ASIL-CFR Roundtable
From: William J. Haynes II, General Counsel of the Department of Defense
Subject: Enemy Combatants

There is no doubt that the attacks of September 11, 2001 constituted acts of war. They poss ...[text shortened]... sident’s determination on this issue is final, courts have concurred with his determination.[/b][/b]

From the link: Although the President’s determination on this issue is final

He might have thought so, but court decisions of more recent vintage have made clear that he was mistaken.

Originally posted by whodey
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203975.html

Obama's administration's top intellegence officials recently declared that an attack on the US home front by Al-Qaeda or its allies within the next 6 months is certain. In addition, "Al-Qaeda maintains its intent to attack the homeland-preferably with a large scale attack ...[text shortened]... cuss now just in case some of are not around later to have a say....if ya know what I mean.

whodey, just dig in and be prepared.

Originally posted by no1marauder
If they could acheive their goals peacefully, they'd be peaceful.

ah, their goals... to kill everyone who doesn't believe in Allah?

Originally posted by Hugh Glass
ah, their goals... to kill everyone who doesn't believe in Allah?

Yup, that's their #1 goal.🙄🙄

Originally posted by Hugh Glass
ah, their goals... to kill everyone who doesn't believe in Allah?

Not true. Just look at groups like Fatah and Hamas fight in the streets of Palestine. In fact, Bin Laden detests the government of Saudia Arabia even though they are Muslims.

Originally posted by FMF
Yep. If there [b]isn't a mass slaughter attrocity in the next six months on the U.S. mainland, or one is prevented, whodey can lead the call for Obama to resign.[/b]

Are you certain like Obama?

Originally posted by whodey
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203975.html

Obama's administration's top intellegence officials recently declared that an attack on the US home front by Al-Qaeda or its allies within the next 6 months is certain. In addition, "Al-Qaeda maintains its intent to attack the homeland-preferably with a large scale attack ...[text shortened]... cuss now just in case some of are not around later to have a say....if ya know what I mean.

So assuming the Obama administration is right

That'll be the day.