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who thinks Amanda is guilty? anyone care?

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this Harry Rag guy has the same post on the comments for news articles on a few websites, plus a link under his name to a Meredith site: http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/6737900/Amanda-Knox-guilty...-but-of-what.html

The evidence against Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito is overwhelming:

1. The multiple conflicting alibis and the fact they still don't have credible alibis for the night of the murder.

2. The contradictory and conflicting witness statements.

3. The deliberate and repeated lies that were exposed by telephone and computer records, and by CCTV footage.

4. Amanda Knox's voluntary confession that she was involved in Meredith's murder and the fact that this confession contained significant elements of truth.

5. Judge Paolo Micheli's claim that Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito knew precise details about Meredith's murder that they couldn't have known if they weren't involved.

6. Various independent forensic experts - Dr. Patrizia Stenoni, Dr. Renato Biondo and Professor Francesca Torricelli - categorically stating that Meredith's DNA was on the blade of the double DNA knife.

7. The five instances of Amanda Knox’s DNA mixed with Meredith’s blood in three different locations in the cottage in Via della Pergola: the bathroom, the hallway, and Filomena’s bedroom, where the break-in was staged.

8. An abundant amount of Raffaele Sollecito's DNA being on Meredith's bra clasp. Meredith's bra had been cut with a knife and Sollecito must have touched the clasp as it cut the strap.

Judge Paolo Micheli pointed out that Meredith's bra had been removed some time after she had been killed.

9. Two independent imprint experts categorically excluding the possibility that the bloody footprint on the blue bathmat could belong to Rudy Guede.

Lorenzo Rinaldi stated:

"“You can see clearly that this bloody footprint on the rug does not belong to Mr. Guede, but you can see that it is compatible with Sollecito.”

The other imprint expert print expert testified that the bloody footprint on the blue bathmat matched the precise characteristics of Sollecito’s foot.

10. The woman's bloody shoeprint on the pillow under Meredith's body matched Amanda Knox's foot size, but was incompatible with Meredith's shoe size.

11. Raffaele Sollecito's forensic expert, Professor Vinci claim cthat he had found Knox's DNA on Meredith's bra.

12. The Murder Dynamic.

Barbie Nadeau wrote:

"Countless forensic experts, including those who performed the autopsies on Kercher's body, have testified that more than one person killed her based on the size and location of her injuries and the fact that she didn't fight back—no hair or skin was found under her fingernails."

13. The fact that the break-in was clearly staged with witnesses testifying that there were shards of glass strewn on top of Filomena's clothes. This proves that the window was broken after the room had been ransacked.

There were no marks to indicate that the somebody had climbed up the wall and no blood or DNA on the broken glass.

No-one managed to the scale the wall and climb through the window when Sollecito's defence team attempted to show that it was possible.

14. The tampering of the crime scene. Judge Paolo Micheli wrote in his 106-page report that Meredith's bra was removed and her body was moved some time after she had been killed.

15. The witness testimonies, especially the testimony given by Antonio Curatolo and Nara Capezalli.

Antonio Curatolo testified that he saw Amanda Knox and Raffale Sollecito watching the gate of the cottage from Piazza Grimana on the night of the murder. Curatolo is regarded as an honest and reliable witness by Judge Paolo Micheli.

Nara Capezalli claimed she heard a terrified scream and then two or more people running away.

Another witness Antonella Monacchia corroborated Nara Capezalli's testimony about hearing a woman's loud scream.

16. Suspicious Mobile Phone Activity

Amanda Knox's and Raffaele Sollecito's mobile activity on the night of the murder was suspicious and highly unusual. They turned off their mobiles at approximately the same time shortly before Meredith was killed.

Police investigator, Letterio Latella, testified that Knox's and Sollecito’s mobile phones were inactive most of the night, and that activity on their mobile phones stopped almost simultaneously.

Latella stated that he did not find any evidence of a similar “blackout” of Knox's and Sollecito’s mobile phones in the month before the murder.

Investigators have said that both Knox and Sollecito’s phones were usually on until late at night and would come back on in the late morning.

17. Amanda Knox's false accusation of Diya Lumumba after she had been informed that Sollectio had told police that she had asked him to lie for her and he had stopped providing her with an alibi

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I'll admit I don't massively care, but I did really enjoy this article yesterday, as I knew very little about the Italian legal system:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/06/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-trial-perugia

Recommended.

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It seems like justice wasn't served. Of the three people found guilty, it seems pretty unlikely all 3 were guilty. I have no idea if it was Knox, or not but I would have had trouble with a guilty verdict if it I were on the jury.

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news outlets only put up a fraction of the trial data.

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Originally posted by DrKF
I'll admit I don't massively care, but I did really enjoy this article yesterday, as I knew very little about the Italian legal system:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/06/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-trial-perugia

Recommended.
yes this was the article that also stirred my imagination as well. Also why should her family have to pay such huge compensation, for they were not guilty of the crime, one million Euros to the victims parents and eight hundred thousand euros to the victims siblings. i have never heard of such a thing before.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
this Harry Rag guy has the same post on the comments for news articles on a few websites, plus a link under his name to a Meredith site: http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/6737900/Amanda-Knox-guilty...-but-of-what.html

The evidence against Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito is overwhelming:

...[text shortened]... to lie for her and he had stopped providing her with an alibi
thanks for this, nicely summarised.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
why should her family have to pay such huge compensation, for they were not guilty of the crime, one million Euros to the victims parents and eight hundred thousand euros to the victims siblings.
It's a Middle Ages thing, robbie.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes this was the article that also stirred my imagination as well. Also why should her family have to pay such huge compensation, for they were not guilty of the crime, one million Euros to the victims parents and eight hundred thousand euros to the victims siblings. i have never heard of such a thing before.
I know - the article points out that this is 'part of the complicated system', but doesn't tell us anything more!

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Originally posted by FMF
It's a Middle Ages thing, robbie.
really FMF, wow that's amazing. you also find the same practice in Islam, where the victims family can be compensated through a monetary payment! That its still practised in Europe, is a revelation indeed.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
who thinks Amanda is guilty? anyone care?
don't know, don't care.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
really FMF, wow that's amazing. you also find the same practice in Islam, where the victims family can be compensated through a monetary payment! That its still practised in Europe, is a revelation indeed.
Monetary compensation maybe isn't a bad thing, but it should definitely have to come out of the perpetrator's own pocket.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
really FMF, wow that's amazing. you also find the same practice in Islam, where the victims family can be compensated through a monetary payment! That its still practised in Europe, is a revelation indeed.
it just dawned on me what a stupid statement i made, for goodness knows there must be hundreds of medieval laws still extant, which shall remain so, until they are repealed. Scottish Law, as far as i am aware is based on Roman Law, even before the medieval period.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
don't know, don't care.
you dont care about justice or injustice?

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Originally posted by randolph
Monetary compensation maybe isn't a bad thing, but it should definitely have to come out of the perpetrator's own pocket.
i suppose it provides a degree of comfort, but i think the Kerchers would much rather have their daughter than the dosh. i think we often see this in cases of litigation, for example accidents at work, when someone loses a limb, insurance companies, lawyers etc seem to be able to put a monetary value on say the loss of a limb, or a finger. The Italian courts seem to be able to put monetary value on the loss of a life.