16 Apr 09
We Americans have some history many would like to forget, but Germany was not the first country to have a eugenics movement.
http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/list3.pl
There was even a film that promoted forced sterilization called "Tomorrow's Children".
At what point is a policy considered eugenics? Some states do not allow marriage between cousins. Could that be considered eugenics? What if someone had a serious hereditary disease and had children knowing they would likely give that bad gene to their children? Is that ethical?
If someday gene therapy could cure hereditary diseases, should gene screening be mandatory for ethical reasons?
16 Apr 09
Originally posted by Metal BrainTo these and other similar hard to answer questions hire out GATACA from your local blockbuster. See the future today!
We Americans have some history many would like to forget, but Germany was not the first country to have a eugenics movement.
http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/list3.pl
There was even a film that promoted forced sterilization called "Tomorrow's Children".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWtBtMU9bMw
At what point is a policy considered eu ...[text shortened]... erapy could cure hereditary diseases, should gene screening be mandatory for ethical reasons?
16 Apr 09
Originally posted by kmax87I saw that movie once.
To these and other similar hard to answer questions hire out GATACA from your local blockbuster. See the future today!
Here is a good article called "Go ahead, kiss your cousin". It uses the inbred Rothschild family as an example with a family tree. It gives insight into why the inbreeding started in this wealthy banking family. It also shows which states don't allow marriage between cousins and a world map of countries that do it as well.
http://discovermagazine.com/2003/aug/featkiss
I learned a lot from it.
16 Apr 09
Originally posted by Sam The ShamYou didn't say severely, and that has nothing to do with genetics.
Yes I'm sure you have, but who's going to raise them? Why would a severly retarded person be allowed to have children? The idea is insane.
Who would raise them is a different issue. What if only one parent is retarded?
I'm not promoting the procreation of retarded people, I'm just saying retardation does not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with the gene pool. It is often a developmental problem.
16 Apr 09
Originally posted by Metal BrainI don't think you have any experiance with tards and don't know enough to form a valid opinion.
You didn't say severely, and that has nothing to do with genetics.
Who would raise them is a different issue. What if only one parent is retarded?
I'm not promoting the procreation of retarded people, I'm just saying retardation does not necessarily mean there is anything wrong with the gene pool. It is often a developmental problem.
16 Apr 09
Originally posted by Sam The ShamI knew a guy that married a mentally handicapped woman and they had a boy. He was a smart and good looking young man that got good grades in school.
I don't think you have any experiance with tards and don't know enough to form a valid opinion.
She wasn't retarded because of her genes. Some women drink while they are pregnant and that may be why she was born that way. You could make the argument that she may carry a gene of alcoholism but that is another issue.
16 Apr 09
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Originally posted by Sam The ShamHe's talking to you; that's a good way to gain "experiance with tards".
I don't think you have any experiance with tards and don't know enough to form a valid opinion.
The shameful history of forced sterilization is shocking to anyone with a conscience (that wouldn't include you). Oddly enough, right wingers who scream about the excessive reach of government when it raises rich people's taxes don't seem to have a problem with the State determining who is too much of a "tard" to have children. Odd.
17 Apr 09
Originally posted by smw6869What next? The designs for the ovens were tried and tested age old designs that had been used for centuries by Europe's goldsmiths and other metallurgists? And no doubt it was all financed by ..............
And don't forget the bricks and cement he used to construct the ovens. They came from the US also. FACT.
GRANNY.