Originally posted by knightwestIf the occupational forces pulled out of Iraq I personally think that the stable and strong Middle East countries will step in and restore order eventually (alot quicker than if still occupied). Either that or the war will expand into other Middle East countries. But the simple fact is THAT NONE OF THIS SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Hence me asking why they were in Iraq in the first place.
Now you are avoiding the question!
What happened to Vietnam when the US pulled out?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyBecause U.N. stands for Useless Ninnies. Darfur is a prime example of the Useless Ninnies InAction.
Use the UN official www site as sources when you research Darfur. IF you can find any references... and it isn't easy, these are the ones they have posted there:
Sept 16, 2004
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2004/sgsm9484.doc.htm
Nov 19, 2004
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2004/sc8249.doc.htm
Mar 30, 2007
http://www.un.org/apps/news ...[text shortened]... ight make one think that they are doing great work over there. So why the continued genocide?
Originally posted by EsotericYou must be talking about the stable and strong countries called Iran and Syria. People should simply shut up unless they have walked in an area full of Islamic nuts, either in the middle east or the badlands of one of the US cities. They don't call it islam in the cities, but say it's a different Culture. Hate the USA is pretty popular right now and it's not the first time. The answer should be to fully pull out of europe and the middle east and let them kill each other. Then direct all of the billions in charity to improving the infrastructure in the US.
If the occupational forces pulled out of Iraq I personally think that the stable and strong Middle East countries will step in and restore order eventually (alot quicker than if still occupied). Either that or the war will expand into other Middle East countries. But the simple fact is THAT NONE OF THIS SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Hence me asking why they were in Iraq in the first place.
What happened to Vietnam when the US pulled out?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_Account#Implementation_and_funding
"The Millennium Challenge Account (MCA), run by the Millennium Challenge Corporation, is a bilateral development fund announced by the Bush administration in 2002 and created in January, 2004.
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Implementation and funding
Through this program, the United States federal government proposed to permanently increase United States foreign aid funding by $5 billion by 2005. Countries are selected on a competitive basis through a set of 16 indicators designed to measure a country’s effectiveness at ruling justly, investing in people, and fostering enterprise and entrepreneurship. The focus of the MCA is to promote economic growth in the recipient countries. The program emphasizes good economic policies in recipient countries. The Bush administration has stated their belief that development aid works better in countries with good economic policies, such as free markets and low corruption.
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"[edit] Criteria for eligibility
All indicators used and the whole process of qualifying are publicly available at the homepage of the MCA. Other development programs like USAID (United States Agency for International Development) have been thought to have suffered from many different and sometimes conflicting goals, which often are a result of political pressures. On September 11, 2006, two new criteria were adopted for the Fiscal Year 2008 selection process, both of which relate to the environment. They will measure candidate countries ability to provide "clean drinking water, expand sanitation services, streamline the property registration process, and make land rights accessible and secure for poor and vulnerable populations."[1] The Corporation announced in December 2006 the creation of a gender policy to promote the role of women in the process of forming the compacts and in their impact.[2]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:MCC.PNG
MCA map, captioned as:
"Participants in the Program; United States as donor is in green, red countries have active compacts, blue countries have active threshold compacts, purple countries are in negotations for either, and pink countries have negotiated threshold agreements and are negotiating for full compacts"
Originally posted by wittywonkaits because we are frustrated with the government...holding us back and thats y ppl hate us
Oops...I hit enter and started the thread before I posted...hold on a sec...
Has anyone (and I'm sure many have) noticed how distant (although possibly not the best word choice) Americans seem to global problems? While Americans grieve over the deaths of 32 deaths of college students (and I am in NO WAY WHATSOEVER diminishing the tragedy of the VT sho ...[text shortened]... Word choice and grammatical...
1 Edit -- Merk's suggestion
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Originally posted by jvanhineBy the way WE in the previous post doesn't mean all. Just liberals who drive their cars while attacking oil companies and hating their country and all it stands for. For those in europe please bear with us while we grind our teeth and have to deal with these jack asses
its because we are frustrated with the government...holding us back and thats y ppl hate us
Originally posted by Esoterichttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Aftermath
If the occupational forces pulled out of Iraq I personally think that the stable and strong Middle East countries will step in and restore order eventually (alot quicker than if still occupied). Either that or the war will expand into other Middle East countries. But the simple fact is THAT NONE OF THIS SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Hence me asking why they were in Iraq in the first place.
What happened to Vietnam when the US pulled out?
"Aftermath
Main articles: Mayagüez Incident, Socialist Republic of Vietnam, Democratic Kampuchea, Third Indochina War, Reeducation camp, and boat people
Phnom Penh, the capital of Cambodia, fell to the Khmer Rouge on April 17, 1975. The last official American military action in South East Asia occurred on 15 May 1975. Forty-one U.S. military personnel were killed when the Khmer Rouge seized a U.S. merchant ship, the SS Mayaguez. The episode became known as the Mayagüez incident.
The Pathet Lao overthrew the royalist government of Laos in December, 1975. They established the Lao People's Democratic Republic.
Hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese officials, particularly ARVN officers, were imprisoned in reeducation camps after the Communist takeover. Tens of thousands died and many fled the country after being released. Up to two million civilians left the country, and as many as half of these boat people perished at sea.
On July 2, 1976, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam was declared. In 1977, President Jimmy Carter issued a pardon for nearly 10,000 draft dodgers.
After repeated border clashes in 1978, Vietnam invaded Democratic Kampuchea (Cambodia) and ousted the Khmer Rouge. As many as two million died during the Khmer Rouge genocide.
Vietnam began to repress its ethnic Chinese minority. Thousand fled and the exodus of the boat people began. In 1979, China invaded Vietnam in retaliation for its invasion of Cambodia, known as the Third Indochina War or the Sino-Vietnamese War. Chinese forces were repulsed.
The dire predictions of a generation did not come to fruition. Since Thailand and other South East Asian nations did not fall to systematic Vietnamese aggression, the Domino Theory, so widely trumpeted, was said to have been an illusion. Others, however, argued that they did not fall to Communism, because the war bought time for their economic and political development. Vietnam, without the presence of the United States, showed itself to be of little economic or strategic value to anyone.[88]
At home, a generation of Americans struggled to absorb the lessons of military intervention without clear motives or objectives.[89] As General Maxwell Taylor, one of the principle architects of the war noted "first, we didn't know ourselves. We thought that we were going into another Korean war, but this was a different country. Secondly, we didn't know our South Vietnamese allies .... And we knew less about North Vietnam. Who was Ho Chi Minh? Nobody really knew. So, until we know the enemy and know our allies and know ourselves, we'd better keep out of this kind of dirty business. It's very dangerous."[90]
Almost 3 million Americans served in Vietnam. Between 1965 and 1973 the United States spent $120 billion on the war. This contributed to a large federal deficit. The war demonstrated that no power, not even a superpower, has unlimited strength and resources. But perhaps most significantly, the Vietnam War illustrated that political will, as much as material might, is a decisive factor in the outcome of conflicts.
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