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@metal-brain said
Prove it or shut up. You are a liar.
That sentence alone diaqualifies you from "scientific" discussions.
It also disqualifies you from "debate".

prove that @Kewpie in any one post inentionally and with a better knowledge of facts and accepted state of scientific knowledge posted something against that.

You are the "proof" guy, so do your work.


@metal-brain said
You are lying. List the lies I told or shut up.
e.g. Thread 184481 your post from 3oth of March


@Metal-Brain science is not a lie. It is the search for truth based on rigorous use of the scientific method. As new information and facts are discovered, our understanding changes. Faith is different. Faith is not based on research based evidence.


@ponderable said
e.g. Thread 184481 your post from 3oth of March
Nobody proved I was lying.

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@metal-brain said
Nobody proved I was lying.
tl, dr?

So I quote for your convinience:

SARS2 is a lipid enveloped virus. It is very challenging to create a vaccine for that type of virus. Don't hold your breath.


you may claim, that you meant "hold your breath" litterally...

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@Wajoma
Right, so the human race does not need leaders. Got it. That would suite your style of governing just fine wouldn't it.

Trump is an ANTI leader.

He is a criminal, he is the REAL teflon Don.

But the law is catching up with this long time criminal.

He seems to think just announcing a bid for POTUS in 24 is going to save him from the axe getting ready to fall in at least THREE states and FEDERAL charges.
His CFO has already pleaded guilty to DECADES of fraud and it is really STUPID to think all that fraud was on the hands of the CFO and Trump knew nothing about it.

I guess you figure Americans are SO stupid they could actually believe it.

So stick it up your ass you POS.

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@phranny said
@Metal-Brain science is not a lie. It is the search for truth based on rigorous use of the scientific method. As new information and facts are discovered, our understanding changes. Faith is different. Faith is not based on research based evidence.
Of course science is not a lie, but that doesn't mean that scientists and public health professionals don't sometimes make unwarranted claims or statements or that they shouldn't be called out when they do.

The message that we've seen in recent weeks that the covid vaccine was never about preventing transmission (examples: https://www.factcheck.org/2022/10/scicheck-its-not-news-nor-scandalous-that-pfizer-trial-didnt-test-transmission/ and https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-pfizer-transmission-european-parliament-950413863226) is gaslighting.

If the vaccine was never about preventing transmission, then mandates for healthy college students never made any sense. Vaccinate to protect Grandma was a message we heard from pretty much everyone from the President on down through 2021.

While the covid vaccine has undoubtedly saved many lives and was a wonderful scientific achievement, from what we know now, it seems obvious that mandates and taking away people's jobs and right to travel based on vaccine refusal was never warranted. It would be nice of the PH community admitted that rather than digging in.

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@ponderable said
For you in esay to understand sentences:

* There is a collection of methods whcih we call "science". That method is in a nutshell: observe things, quantify the observations, set up a hypothesis and try to disporve it by experiments. As long as it is not disproved it is called "state of scientific knowledge".

* There are hypotheses according to the "stateof scientifi ...[text shortened]... eserach by formulating a hypothesis, that can be proved worng (just not with the knowledge at hand).
There is the science and there are lies about the science. You chose to blindly accept the latter. Read sh76's post above. He is bringing sanity to your insane false narrative. And don't take it out on him, take it out on the people that lied to you. He is just the messenger.