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    04 Oct '10 19:11
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    He's an MP. His party is providing support in parliament to a minority government which will take office soon.
    Is an MP like a President, except you elect his party and they appoint him?
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    04 Oct '10 19:14
    First of all, the Dutch people will not disappear. Cultures do not get replaced.

    Second, why are Moroccans flooding into Holland?

    Third, European ethnic and political dominance over Europe is NOT going to end over a flood of ghetto Moroccans.
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    04 Oct '10 19:15
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    At least enough to get Wilders any votes.
    Probably the same people who believe there will be more policemen. In fact, it will be less.
    I am very disappointed 🙁
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    04 Oct '10 19:15
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Is an MP like a President, except you elect his party and they appoint him?
    No no... MP = member of parliament. Like a Congressman.
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    04 Oct '10 19:171 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    First of all, the Dutch people will not disappear. Cultures do not get replaced.
    Wilders claims that muslims aren't tolerant enough, and that muslims will not accept anything different than the islam, unlike all other religions.
    That's why Dutch people will suddenly disappear.
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    04 Oct '10 19:19
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    First of all, the Dutch people will not disappear. Cultures do not get replaced.

    Second, why are Moroccans flooding into Holland?

    Third, European ethnic and political dominance over Europe is NOT going to end over a flood of ghetto Moroccans.
    People of Moroccan descent make up about 2% of the population. Most of them, at least their parents or grandparents, came to Holland in the 60s to do dirty work the Dutch weren't willing to do.
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    04 Oct '10 19:19
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No no... MP = member of parliament. Like a Congressman.
    Minister-President?
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    04 Oct '10 19:19
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No no... MP = member of parliament. Like a Congressman.
    OK. Then he speaks for the Dutch people. Hs is one of your Official Representatives. Right?

    Such a person speaking on such an issue is not expressing his freedom of speech; he's expressing, in part, Holland's Official Position On The Matter. Right?
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    04 Oct '10 19:21
    Originally posted by Thomaster
    Wilders claims that muslims aren't tolerant enough, and that muslims will not accept anything different than the islam, unlike all other religions.
    That's why Dutch people will suddenly disappear.
    Yeah, well, the Jews, Basques, American Indians, Ainu etc are still around despite some determined efforts to stamp them out.
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    04 Oct '10 19:24
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    OK. Then he speaks for the Dutch people. Hs is one of your Official Representatives. Right?

    Such a person speaking on such an issue is not expressing his freedom of speech; he's expressing, in part, Holland's Official Position On The Matter. Right?
    No. A senator saying something wouldn't necessarily represent the stance of the US government. In the same sense something a Dutch MP says does not necessarily reflect the stance of the Dutch government. Holland's Official Position is determined by the executive branch of government (the cabinet).
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    04 Oct '10 19:24
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    OK. Then he speaks for the Dutch people. Hs is one of your Official Representatives. Right?

    Such a person speaking on such an issue is not expressing his freedom of speech; he's expressing, in part, Holland's Official Position On The Matter. Right?
    Sad, isn't it. 🙁
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    04 Oct '10 19:25
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Yeah, well, the Jews, Basques, American Indians, Ainu etc are still around despite some determined efforts to stamp them out.
    Plenty of others were stamped out though.
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    04 Oct '10 19:26
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No. A senator saying something wouldn't necessarily represent the stance of the US government. In the same sense something a Dutch MP says does not necessarily reflect the stance of the Dutch government. Holland's Official Position is determined by the executive branch of government (the cabinet).
    The Senator represents her state's Official Position. Of course there are two of them to balance such things.

    I'm too ignorant of your political structure to understand why exactly this person is being prosucuted I guess.
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    04 Oct '10 19:26
    Originally posted by Thomaster
    Minister-President?
    Not in the context of my earlier post.
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    04 Oct '10 19:27
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    The Senator represents her state's Official Position. Of course there are two of them to balance such things.

    I'm too ignorant of your political structure to understand why exactly this person is being prosucuted I guess.
    MPs aren't immune to prosecution. He's being prosecuted because some civilians thought they had a case against him.
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