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An interesting question in our liberal society.

An interesting question in our liberal society.

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@no1marauder said
You're holding your breath until you turn blue insistence doesn't impress me. I already pointed out that the SCOTUS and 46 States recognize that people can change their sex. You and Donald Trump don't. I get it, but you're wrong and terribly ignorant. There's a lot more involved in gender affirming treatment and surgery than merely "snipping privates"; maybe if you'd eve ...[text shortened]... you'd learn this.

I've answered the same question over and over and over again. I won't anymore.
I didn't ask you a question about SCOTUS. I didn't ask you about States recognizing sex change. I didn't ask you about gender affirming.
I asked my deaf and dumb neighbor, would it be fair and acceptable for a male to compete in a swim meet that has been reserved for females? That is the same question that I asked you.
I said to my neighbor, raise one finger for yes, two fingers for no. He answered, with his fingers.
Likewise, you or Suzianne can raise one or two fingers to answer, or in this case, type 'Y' or 'N'.

But you won't. CHATgpt is your thing. Just pitiful.

Ask me a question.


@sonhouse said
The America we used to know is dissolving in a bucket of political manure led by a sociopathic madman intent on kingdom and all you can do is worry about fuuking GONADS?
With people like you in charge we DESERVE to lose our democracy, which I put up as a THOUSAND TIMES more immediate than any of your gender bender games.
Oh yeah? 'People like you' will pit muscular high-testerone males against their daughters in athletic events. In effect, canceling their daughters. CANCELING their daughters. At this rate, your sowing the seeds of WOKE will cause us to lose our democracy just as quickly.
Sonhouse will be the reason we lose our Democracy. What in the world.

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@no1marauder said
Just what do you think will change just because right wingers want to deny sex change procedures exist? People have been having them for about 70 years or so.
Forget not that you have highjacked this thread, my thread, which is a questin having nothing to do with sex.
Nothing to do with sex. You got this ....thing....going, man. Relax.

Get your feet on the ground, we are just chatting here, we are sitting at Starbucks. Hey, Marauder, 20 sophomores are taking part in a test at the High School, 9AM. To see who makes the best grade. One parent wants his son, a Senior, to participate. I have a question for you......would you find that acceptable? My daughter is in the group. I am going down there when I finish this cup of coffee. Come with me??


@mike69 said
@no1
Nice no answer.
Uh oh. I think it is because you said 'real woman'. Marauder blew a fuse. And he is still wrestling with the fact that this human called a girl has a prostate. I think I will go play golf with real men.

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@mike69 said
I care about what they doing to their bodies because of high suicide rates later on and other mental issues not addressed. It’s their bodies and no one is stopping them although a large portion of these people are young autistic men with issues looking for happiness, love, and acceptance in this new world of lies and deception. The rape numbers are four times higher than w ...[text shortened]... think they were now a real woman that if you were younger you would be with sexually trimmed or not?
I back people's freedom to do what they please with their own bodies.

I oppose government invidious discrimination against members of minorities.

Your or even the majority's disapproval of sex change procedures does not justify government intervention to punish those who have them.

My own personal attitudes towards transgender persons are irrelevant; I don't have to want to have sex with a transgender woman to support their Natural Right to Equal Protection of the Law enshrined in the 14th Amendment.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Uh oh. I think it is because you said 'real woman'. Marauder blew a fuse. And he is still wrestling with the fact that this human called a girl has a prostate. I think I will go play golf with real men.
Is that a new rule?

If someone has a prostatectomy are they now a woman?

And guess what; men can be born without a prostrate. https://www.ablison.com/can-you-be-born-without-a-prostate/


@no1marauder said
Is that a new rule?

If someone has a prostatectomy are they now a woman?

And guess what; men can be born without a prostrate. https://www.ablison.com/can-you-be-born-without-a-prostate/
Marauder nails it!!! A man can become a woman.

Can anyone here imagine, acknowledging that, chatting about that?


@AverageJoe1 said
Marauder nails it!!! A man can become a woman.

Can anyone here imagine, acknowledging that, chatting about that?
It's been happening for over 70 years.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Oh yeah? 'People like you' will pit muscular high-testerone males against their daughters in athletic events. In effect, canceling their daughters. CANCELING their daughters. At this rate, your sowing the seeds of WOKE will cause us to lose our democracy just as quickly.
Sonhouse will be the reason we lose our Democracy. What in the world.
In the same way that we separate schools by division (I, II, III) and age, it is fair to divide sports by chromosomes: XX and XY. 😆

We wouldn't ask Oberlin College to take on Alabama, now, would we?

The whole idea of 'sport' is a fair contest. If the contest isn't fair, it isn't 'sporting' (which used to mean 'interesting to put a wager on'. My how the times have changed...!)

But it's true. It's boring to me to watch an XY competing among XX's. That's not sporting. Those bets are not interesting. 😆

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@no1marauder said
I back people's freedom to do what they please with their own bodies.

I oppose government invidious discrimination against members of minorities.

Your or even the majority's disapproval of sex change procedures does not justify government intervention to punish those who have them.

My own personal attitudes towards transgender persons are irrelevant; I don't have ...[text shortened]... woman to support their Natural Right to Equal Protection of the Law enshrined in the 14th Amendment.
Marauder said:
'Your or even the majority's disapproval of sex change procedures does not justify government intervention to punish those who have them.

You are a bit flippant with the word punish. Marauder, you would sit in the stands at a Women's 200 Individual Medley and clap for the male who was entered with them, as he wins.
You are part of the punishment of these wonderful young ladies who will go home to their pillows, and non-plan their futures. Just great, Marauder. Marauder is still WOKE. But of course he is.
BTW, I suggest you steer clear of his references to Natural Law. Have any of you used the phrase Natural Law in the last 10 years? Have you ever?


@AverageJoe1 said
Marauder said:
'Your or even the majority's disapproval of sex change procedures does not justify government intervention to punish those who have them.

You are a bit flippant with the word punish. Marauder, you would sit in the stands at a Women's 200 Individual Medley and clap for the male who was entered with them, as he wins.
You are part of the punishment o ...[text shortened]... s to Natural Law. Have any of you used the phrase Natural Law in the last 10 years? Have you ever?
For the sake of clarity, in all these posts where you say a "man" is competing against girls, do you mean to include transgender girls and women as "men"?


@spruce112358 said
In the same way that we separate schools by division (I, II, III) and age, it is fair to divide sports by chromosomes: XX and XY. 😆

We wouldn't ask Oberlin College to take on Alabama, now, would we?

The whole idea of 'sport' is a fair contest. If the contest isn't fair, it isn't 'sporting' (which used to mean 'interesting to put a wager on'. My how the times have c ...[text shortened]... g to me to watch an XY competing among XX's. That's not sporting. Those bets are not interesting. 😆
Do politicians pass laws or issue decrees defining what university plays what other universities in sporting events?


@no1marauder said
For the sake of clarity, in all these posts where you say a "man" is competing against girls, do you mean to include transgender girls and women as "men"?
MeThinks you are very interested in the nature of humans as they relate sexually to one another..Don't mean to sound ugly, but you cannot seem to get away from wanting to thresh out the different products produced by surgeons with their scalpels and drugs. The queer interchangeability of human bodies as they relate to themselves and to one another. A real merry-go-round. Like a huge experiment, how far we can go with the body...like Mengele in the camps.

Congratulations, you know a WHOLE lot more about that (and Natural Law!!!) than we all do. You seem to know a lot about it. There should be some forum or website or blog that would suit your posts much more than does this one.
There is not a question posed to you that you do not eviscerate. On any subject. Thus my referring to you as contrarian. That is not the half of it.
And sorry to get personal, but I have to, to suggest another blog. On this (these) subjects, anyway. Do you really want to discuss this crap with sue?

Further, I sayeth not


@no1marauder said
For the sake of clarity, in all these posts where you say a "man" is competing against girls, do you mean to include transgender girls and women as "men"?
You see, speaking for myself, of course, I do not know what transgender really means. Don't bother telling me................PLEASE!!

PS: I know what a man is. And I know what a woman is. You do not seem to nail that one down. Next you will tell us to clarify diff in a man and a boy. uhhh, you do that, feller.


@no1marauder said
For the sake of clarity, in all these posts where you say a "man" is competing against girls, do you mean to include transgender girls and women as "men"?
Are you calling this big moose a woman?

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