@earl-of-trumps said95% of those that take the mRNA vax, yes. That will NOT result in herd immunity though. You have to have immunity from the virus for that to happen and the mRNA vax does not do that.
@Metal-Brain - Work for what? This is the second time I have asked you that.
Do the various vaccines make people immune from COVID19?
The answer is YES.
Now it is news to me that the vaxes do not kill the virus, they merely prevent the virus from ruining one's health.
This is not a problem, we carry many viruses in our body with no ill effect anyway. ...[text shortened]...
So that is the long and short of it, MB, the vaccine prevents us from getting COVID19. Good by me!
That leads to another Fauci lie. He moved the goal post for herd immunity.
Why is he lying about herd immunity is one good question, but why is he talking about herd immunity at all? There will be no herd immunity from the vaccines since there is no proven immunity to the virus.
Even if all people who can take the vaccine were to take it there are still many people who cannot. Pregnant women. children under 16 and those with serious allergies cannot take the vaccine. Add to that the 5% that the vaccine does not protect and that is well over 16% of the population. That means fauci's goal post move to 85% herd immunity is impossible!
Fauci is either a pathological liar or an incompetent idiot. There will be herd immunity when we all get the virus, not before that as a real vaccine would give us. It will leave the unvaccinated vulnerable to C19 and they may get it from a vaccinated person.
It is time for Fauci to tell us the truth about herd immunity. He is leading us to believe herd immunity is possible from a vaccine when it is not.
@Metal-Brain
95% of those that take the mRNA vax, yes. That will NOT result in herd immunity though. You have to have immunity from the virus for that to happen and the mRNA vax does not do that.
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So, we're all going to die.
Got it!
@earl-of-trumps saidDon't be a drama queen.
@Metal-Brain
95% of those that take the mRNA vax, yes. That will NOT result in herd immunity though. You have to have immunity from the virus for that to happen and the mRNA vax does not do that.
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So, we're all going to die.
Got it!
99.8% of people live through it.
@Metal-Brain
So about 30 million in the US with covid and at the rate you said, 0.2%, that would be 60,000 deaths.
You really should vet your math before posting your usual bullshyte.
@sonhouse saidNow let us all know the numbers of flu deaths on average.
@Metal-Brain
So about 30 million in the US with covid and at the rate you said, 0.2%, that would be 60,000 deaths.
You really should vet your math before posting your usual bullshyte.
@earl-of-trumps saidDid you hear? Now Moderna is going to test their mRNA vaccine on children. That way they can reach that 80-85% herd immunity they don't know is possible with their vaccine since there is no evidence of immunity from the virus.
@Metal-Brain
95% of those that take the mRNA vax, yes. That will NOT result in herd immunity though. You have to have immunity from the virus for that to happen and the mRNA vax does not do that.
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So, we're all going to die.
Got it!
I guess their new tactic is to rely and the myth of herd immunity that will not be reached until most people get infected. Most people think of covid19 as a virus even though it is not. They often use "covid19" and "SARS2" interchangeably. They don't know the difference.
People already believe in the myth of FDA approval.
They made the vaccines available for emergency use.
To fool people they called it "approval" for emergency use.
Now most people think the vaccines have FDA approval when they do not.
Does the corporate news media make an effort to clear up these popular misconceptions? Nope. That is what they want people to believe. They don't want to fact check any of that.
Welcome to the new age of selective fact checking.
From the link below:
"COVID Gene Therapy May Not Prevent Transmission
Another point being largely ignored in the mainstream media is that it’s unknown if the COVID-19 vaccines prevent transmission, putting a major hole in the push for vaccine-driven herd immunity.
Unlike conventional vaccines, which use an antigen of the disease you’re trying to prevent, the COVID-19 injections contain synthetic RNA fragments encapsulated in a nanolipid carrier compound,16 the sole purpose of which is to lessen clinical symptoms associated with the S-1 spike protein, not the actual virus.
They do not actually impart immunity or inhibit transmissibility of the disease. In other words, they are not designed to keep you from getting sick with SARS-CoV-2; they only are supposed to lessen your infection symptoms if or when you do get infected.17,18
At a virtual press conference held by the World Health Organization (WHO) on December 28, 2020, WHO officials warned there is no guarantee that COVID-19 vaccines will prevent people from being infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus and transmitting it to other people.19
In a New Year’s Day interview with Newsweek, Fauci reinforced the WHO’s admission that health officials do not know if COVID-19 vaccines prevent infection or if people can spread the virus to others after getting vaccinated."
https://www.globalresearch.ca/using-herd-immunity-excuse-gene-therapy-vaccine-kids/5740255
What herd immunity? And why isn't this a big issue being discussed? It is propaganda by omission. The corporate news media is deliberately keeping people ignorant so you don't question their contradictions.